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  • Originally posted by Sunny Delight View Post

    Yet you are doing the inverse and stating the similarities in your mind make it Ripper like. Is that also boring and speculative?
    Not really as Abby has stated Bury shows the SIG of the Ripper this is not true for any other suspect nor is it common for someone to show a serial killers SIG without being the Serial Killer.

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    • Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

      Not really as Abby has stated Bury shows the SIG of the Ripper this is not true for any other suspect nor is it common for someone to show a serial killers SIG without being the Serial Killer.
      The Rippers signature was post mortem mutilation followed by displaying of the victim. If anything the hiding of his wife's body is contrary to that. You can't pick out the things you see as bolstering your theory and ignore the rest. That is what is wrong with Ripperology.

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      • Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

        I think that highly unlikely. As I've previously stated the Police had no previous knowledge of Serial Killers.
        They knew a fantasist when they saw one. That is age old whether you have 21st century forensics or not. It does appear superficially at least that Bury displayed this type of behaviour, from what we know. What have you really got on Bury that makes him a good suspect? He was in the area? An area populated by almost 40,000 people. He strangled his wife and attempted to mutilate her abdomen? Strangulation was Ripper MO but the mutilation attempted by Bury bore little resemblance to how the Ripper acted.

        What else have you got? He wrote some graffitti on his wall saying he was JTR? Hardly evidence. More likely the ramblings of a fantasist.

        He didn't cut the throat nor attempy significant mutilation. Nor did he display the victim. Let's be honest. You don't have much.

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        • Originally posted by Sunny Delight View Post

          The Rippers signature was post mortem mutilation followed by displaying of the victim. If anything the hiding of his wife's body is contrary to that. You can't pick out the things you see as bolstering your theory and ignore the rest. That is what is wrong with Ripperology.
          No the Ripper's signature is post mortem mutilation. In the C5 the bodies were just left in the street.

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          • Originally posted by Sunny Delight View Post

            They knew a fantasist when they saw one. That is age old whether you have 21st century forensics or not. It does appear superficially at least that Bury displayed this type of behaviour, from what we know. What have you really got on Bury that makes him a good suspect? He was in the area? An area populated by almost 40,000 people. He strangled his wife and attempted to mutilate her abdomen? Strangulation was Ripper MO but the mutilation attempted by Bury bore little resemblance to how the Ripper acted.

            What else have you got? He wrote some graffitti on his wall saying he was JTR? Hardly evidence. More likely the ramblings of a fantasist.

            He didn't cut the throat nor attempy significant mutilation. Nor did he display the victim. Let's be honest. You don't have much.
            And that's compared to who? What suspect are you talking about who strangled then mutilated someone to the extent Mary Kelly was mutilated? The Ripper investigation was quite wide reaching so I would expect the Ripper to be in there somewhere. What fantasy suspect do you have who is a better suspect than Bury?

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            • Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

              No the Ripper's signature is post mortem mutilation. In the C5 the bodies were just left in the street.
              And displaying the victim with skirts raised.

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              • Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

                And that's compared to who? What suspect are you talking about who strangled then mutilated someone to the extent Mary Kelly was mutilated? The Ripper investigation was quite wide reaching so I would expect the Ripper to be in there somewhere. What fantasy suspect do you have who is a better suspect than Bury?
                I don't have a suspect beyond probably some unknown nobody, whose name was in the files, long lost to history. The suspects we do have are pretty poor overall. We have nothing on most of them and even the circumstantial links are tenuous in many cases. In my own view we are probably looking at someone akin to Robert Napper who illicited the same types of escalation in his attacks.

                The Ripper killed Prostitutes because they were an easy target. He didn't have to approach them. He didn't have to pick a location. I would say the FBI profile probably isn't too far out in the general sense of what he was like. Neat and tidy. Odd. Lived alone. Lived in the locality. Quiet and inoffensive. Likely was prowling Whitechapel on various nights and quite often looking for victims.

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