Have Ripperologists Been Polled As To Who They Think Jack Really Was?

[lynn cates]

How shall we bugger off, lord?

Hello Phil. I say he IS the Messiah and I should know--I've followed a few.

Cheers.
LC

[Robert]

This bloke with the razor....was he around in 1888?

[Steelysama]

Hello Neil. Actually, Steely has William pretty well translated into proper English. First poster I've seen who has done Ockham and not the Principle of Parsimony.

Bet he had a philosophy class at university.

Cheers.
LC

Thank you, Lynn Actually, yes, I have had philosophy classes in University. In this case, I actually looked it up in the much-fabled Wikipedia because I wanted to make sure I had it right. Haha.

In re: PM conversation...I would like to do that. Although, today I am pretty busy with studying for my CompTIA Security+ certification exam. (Somewhere along the line I went from a Poli Sci major with a minor in Philosophy to being a Computer Security major. Go figure.)

[Phil Carter]

Why does my not subscribing to your understanding of the "facts and reality of the situation" make me a fantasist or a conspiracist?...

Quite independently, people are starting to challenge almost a century-and-a-quarter of misconceptions, wishful thinking and various piles of old horsefeathers.


Regards,

Simon

Hello Simon,

Exactly, Quite independantly.
Blimey, because I agree with you I am in danger of being labelled a 'follower'..

Cries of ' he's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy'...

Cue Lynn Cates, Python fan.

Best wishes

Phil

[Phil Carter]

Good point, Phil though I still believe one man was responsible for the C5 and possibly Tabram. Would you mind if I PM'd you on a non-ripper matter?

Best wishes,
Steve.

Hello Steve,

No problem. Thank you for asking.

Best wishes

Phil

[Monty]

Hi Monty,

Why does my not subscribing to your understanding of the "facts and reality of the situation" make me a fantasist or a conspiracist?

Blimey, five hundred years ago in your home village you'd probably have had me burned as a heretic.

Last time I managed a glance at my fundamental orifice I had no followers. You misread what's happening. Quite independently, people are starting to challenge almost a century-and-a-quarter of misconceptions, wishful thinking and various piles of old horsefeathers.

But still I raise my Yuletide glass of egg nog to you. Here's to next year.

Regards,

Simon

Hi Simon,

Come on now, I've been around a bit. I've seen you excellent contribution to the field (re Knight) and I've seen how you've operated.

Some may be blinking open eyed, I do not.

For the sake of the thread I think it best to walk away from each other on this one and acknowledge we just won't agree. M

Monty

[lynn cates]

William

Hello Neil. Actually, Steely has William pretty well translated into proper English. First poster I've seen who has done Ockham and not the Principle of Parsimony.

Bet he had a philosophy class at university.

Cheers.
LC

[Steven Russell]

Hello Steve,

The one thing you can put your last penny on is the referance to only ONE killer after the Eddowes and Stride murders especially.
The police were being hounded by all and sundry for being so poor they couldnt catch a cold. In that climate there is no way on Earth ANY policeman of rank will announce the possibility of TWO killers being on the loose amongst the poplace. Including the Home Secretary, jobs would be on the chopping block. The reaction to that kind of news would be handing a match to the holder of the revolutionary powder keg holders, I believe,

best wishes

Phil

Good point, Phil though I still believe one man was responsible for the C5 and possibly Tabram. Would you mind if I PM'd you on a non-ripper matter?

Best wishes,
Steve.

[Simon Wood]

Hi Monty,

Why does my not subscribing to your understanding of the "facts and reality of the situation" make me a fantasist or a conspiracist?

Blimey, five hundred years ago in your home village you'd probably have had me burned as a heretic.

Last time I managed a glance at my fundamental orifice I had no followers. You misread what's happening. Quite independently, people are starting to challenge almost a century-and-a-quarter of misconceptions, wishful thinking and various piles of old horsefeathers.

But still I raise my Yuletide glass of egg nog to you. Here's to next year.

Regards,

Simon

[Monty]

Monty,

LOL @ flat world.

Yes, I personally would think that it is best to proceed with this case using the words of William of Ockham: "Plurality must never be posited without necessity." (Otherwise known as Ockham or Occam's Razor) Thus, I ask for proof of the necessity,

Absolutely Steely, however I fear your quest may be in vain.

I'm sure Lynn will set you straight behind closed doors.

Monty

[Steelysama]

Hello Steelysama,

It should be noted that the police (in some cases) still believed the Whitechapel Murderer to be at large as late as 1889.1891,1892 and even 1894. So, "stop suddenly" doesnt apply depending on what police horse one puts one's money on, doesn't it?

Best wishes

Phil

You don't happen to have a link I could look at on that, do you? It sounds interesting.

Anyway, it would not be the only time that a serial killer has gone on for several years. It still leaves the question of "Why only this time period?", Even now, murders of this nature are unusual,

[lynn cates]

thoughts

Hello Steely. A very well thought out question. It deserves a sincere reply.

I believe that one of them was caught. And that happened on September 12, 1888.

And I agree with you about the unproductive aspect of barbs--fun though they may be. Hence you shall find me doing research in my free time.

Delighted to discuss any aspect of the case you prefer; but, the thread was about Ripperologists discussing the case. I am not a member of that august assembly. So, perhaps a PM?

Cheers.
LC

[Steelysama]

Monty,

LOL @ flat world.

Yes, I personally would think that it is best to proceed with this case using the words of William of Ockham: "Plurality must never be posited without necessity." (Otherwise known as Ockham or Occam's Razor) Thus, I ask for proof of the necessity,

[Phil Carter]

Hello Steelysama,

It should be noted that the police (in some cases) still believed the Whitechapel Murderer to be at large as late as 1889.1891,1892 and even 1894. So, "stop suddenly" doesnt apply depending on what police horse one puts one's money on, doesn't it?

Best wishes

Phil

[Monty]

Steely,

I agree, unproductive.

Yes, the question is, if we follow Simon, what are the chances of a number of killers operating out in the open with similar traits?

And then we have to address the supression of these killers.

Oh, by the way, have I told you the world is flat?

Monty