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  • Phil Carter
    Commissioner
    • Oct 2009
    • 4270

    #751
    Originally posted by Robert View Post
    Sacked for being Jack the Ripper while on duty would probably be the worst.
    LOL! Dont think Monty has found one like that!

    Regards

    Phil
    Chelsea FC. TRUE BLUE. 💙


    Justice for the 96 = achieved
    Accountability? ....

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    • lynn cates
      Commisioner
      • Aug 2009
      • 13841

      #752
      Smith

      Hello Neil. Did he merely affix his signature or actually interject comments?

      Cheers.
      LC

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      • Monty
        Commissioner
        • Feb 2008
        • 5413

        #753
        Phil,

        The majority was drunk on duty, usually after so many warnings.

        The worst was Hutt who struck a prisoner whilst in the dock at Moor Lane court. Others include bribery, assaulting a sergeant/fellow constable, neglect of duty (usually being caught in the pub) and AWOL.

        Lynn,

        Mostly he (Smith) initials however if he has something to say he will do.

        The one that springs to mind is again Hutt, who asked for a parchment of reccomendation. Basically Smith noted upon Hutts records, in red ink, that he thought Hutt was a bit cheeky in asking for one (after what he had done at Moor Lane) and that he wasnt going to authorise it.

        Monty
        Monty

        https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...t/evilgrin.gif

        Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

        http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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        • lynn cates
          Commisioner
          • Aug 2009
          • 13841

          #754
          honest

          Hello Neil. Thanks. Looks like he had no difficulty articulating how he felt.

          Cheers.
          LC

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          • Wolf Vanderlinden
            Sergeant
            • Feb 2008
            • 547

            #755
            Sagar is incorrect.
            Right. Whatever.

            Wolf.

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            • Bridewell
              Commissioner
              • Apr 2011
              • 4038

              #756
              Off Duty

              Originally posted by Robert View Post
              Sacked for being Jack the Ripper while on duty would probably be the worst.
              I suspect that, even off duty, it would be frowned upon somewhat!
              I won't always agree but I'll try not to be disagreeable.

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              • Monty
                Commissioner
                • Feb 2008
                • 5413

                #757
                Originally posted by Wolf Vanderlinden View Post
                Right. Whatever.

                Wolf.
                I owe you an apology Wolf. I got confused with White.

                Sorry

                Monty
                Monty

                https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...t/evilgrin.gif

                Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

                http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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                • robhouse
                  Inspector
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 1222

                  #758
                  This is my understanding of the beats of Watkins and Harvey.
                  Attached Files

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                  • Monty
                    Commissioner
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 5413

                    #759
                    Hi Rob,

                    Thats what I have also.

                    They worked a left handed short beat.

                    Monty
                    Monty

                    https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...t/evilgrin.gif

                    Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

                    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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                    • jason_c
                      *
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 966

                      #760
                      Originally posted by robhouse View Post
                      This is my understanding of the beats of Watkins and Harvey.
                      Looking at those beats. If there's one tempting part of Harvey's beat to bypass its the passage way from Duke Street to Mitre Square.

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                      • KatBradshaw
                        Sergeant
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 566

                        #761
                        Tha is true Jason but would you risk it if you were him at the height of the scare?
                        In order to know virtue, we must first aquaint ourselves with vice!

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                        • Cogidubnus
                          Assistant Commissioner
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 3266

                          #762
                          Total surmise but if Mitre Square really was a set-up and Harvey left the bottleneck uncapped? I've always wondered about the shortness of the time interval between Harveys alleged momentary appearance at Mitre Square and Watkins discovery of the body....

                          Dave

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                          • Cogidubnus
                            Assistant Commissioner
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 3266

                            #763
                            Tha is true Jason but would you risk it if you were him at the height of the scare?
                            It'd be interesting to know how many H Division and/or City coppers were disciplined for infractions that Autumn...I suspect with some individuals human nature will out even under the most pressured circumstances.

                            Dave
                            Last edited by Cogidubnus; 04-03-2012, 11:15 PM. Reason: silly typo

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                            • KatBradshaw
                              Sergeant
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 566

                              #764
                              It would be interesting indeed also to know how many left because they couldn't hack the pressure. I know that my sister worked with one of the officers on the Soham case and he lost the plot.
                              In order to know virtue, we must first aquaint ourselves with vice!

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                              • lynn cates
                                Commisioner
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 13841

                                #765
                                time

                                Hello Dave.

                                "I've always wondered about the shortness of the time interval between Harveys alleged momentary appearance at Mitre Square and Watkins discovery of the body."

                                Well, looks like a 2-3 minute interval. Best estimate for Harvey was about 1.42. Watkins looks like 1.44 or 5.

                                Not too wide.

                                Cheers.
                                LC

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