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[Monty]

Hello (again) Neil. Can you refresh me on why they were reversed? I think there was a thread on this a while back--just forgot. Old age.

Cheers.
LC

Hi Lynn,

Every so often the Beat Sergeant or Inspector ordered the reversing of the beats. This to catch out potential criminals who may have studied the beats over the past few nights so they could plan their crimes.

The order would be given at muster, just prior to the PCs being marched onto their beats.

Hi Bridewell,

Watkins indicated that on occaisions he did exit via St James passage. I suspect, like Harvey down Church Passage, he either wandered down it or viewed along it when circling both Mitre Square and St James passage.

One interesting titbit of info, Mitre Square was on a young PC Donald Rumbelows beat back in the 60s I believe.

Monty

[Bridewell]

2 - 3 minutes

Hello Dave.

"I've always wondered about the shortness of the time interval between Harveys alleged momentary appearance at Mitre Square and Watkins discovery of the body."

Well, looks like a 2-3 minute interval. Best estimate for Harvey was about 1.42. Watkins looks like 1.44 or 5.

Not too wide.

Cheers.
LC

Hi Lynn,

Kill someone, lay them down, disembowel them, detach a 2' length of intestine, extract a kidney, carve her face about and nick her eyelids, make good your escape, all in near total darkness. 2 - 3 minutes? Not enough time surely? If that's the case, JtR has to have been at work in Mitre Square while Harvey was walking down Church Passage. Either that or Harvey wasn't there. Did JtR observe the police and identify who the skivers were?

Regards, Bridewell.

[lynn cates]

argument

Hello Bridewell. Which adds force to the argument that Kate's attacker exited through there.

Cheer.
LC

[Bridewell]

St James' Passage

This is my understanding of the beats of Watkins and Harvey.

I never realised before that no-one patrolled St James' Passage.

Regards, Bridewell

[lynn cates]

reversed

Hello (again) Neil. Can you refresh me on why they were reversed? I think there was a thread on this a while back--just forgot. Old age.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

theory

Hello Neil. Dissertation perhaps?

Sounds interesting and I do try to keep an open mind.

Cheers.
LC

[Monty]

But were not the beats reversed on that night I seem to recall or is the picture showing the beats on the night of the murder.

Robs diagram shows the beats as was on the night. As Dave states, they were reversed. And night beats were shortened, which is why there were more Bobbies on night shift than day shift.

Watkins says they were changed to a left handed beat that night.

Monty

[Monty]

No, Monty, I'm the one who should apologize for that snarky response. Sorry about that.

Wolf.

Don't worry about it Wolf, we all have duff days like that. God knows I do, as my initial response to you highlights.

Thanks for the reply, apreciated.

Monty

[Wolf Vanderlinden]

I owe you an apology Wolf. I got confused with White. Sorry

No, Monty, I'm the one who should apologize for that snarky response. Sorry about that.

Wolf.

[Cogidubnus]

Clock/Anticlock

But were not the beats reversed on that night I seem to recall or is the picture showing the beats on the night of the murder.

Hi Trevor

I may be wrong (as you know I often am!) but I think they used generally to work a right hand beat, but at the last minute on this night they were reversed to left hand...

Dave

[Trevor Marriott]

Hi Rob,

Thats what I have also.

They worked a left handed short beat.

Monty

But were not the beats reversed on that night I seem to recall or is the picture showing the beats on the night of the murder.

[Cogidubnus]

Ah well - Still an interesting source for idle speculation though Monty!

All the best

Dave

[Monty]

Of course Lynn...but I think Bridewell's concept has given us some worthwhile food for thought at least!

Dave

Not that it matters but Bridewells post was something discussed some years back and mentioned in an article.

Can't think by whom though.

Monty

[Cogidubnus]

Of course, this is all mere speculation

Of course Lynn...but I think Bridewell's concept has given us some worthwhile food for thought at least!

Dave

[lynn cates]

mere speculation

Hello Dave. One can understand one's fear IF one witnesses such. Perjury under oath is a bit less excusable.

Of course, this is all mere speculation--I have no idea why he was sacked.

Cheers.
LC