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The question I would like answered would be was Jack one of the known suspects or was he an unknown local?
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money
Hello Gwyneth. Thanks.
Yes, there was an apocryphal story about Kate having received money from some man a week or so before she died.
Cheers.
LC
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Unforgettable
Originally posted by lynn cates View PostHello Gwyneth. Thanks.
Pinched your bottom whilst playing Wagner? Ride of the Valkyries, perhaps? (heh-heh)
Seriously, it seems that Kate was quite eager to get out AND on time.
Cheers.
LC
Yes, unforgettable experience!
I agree. In the normal way of things you would have expected her to stay where she was until morning. I have a faint memory of reading something which suggested some people at the time suspected that she was planning to meet someone, but can't find it. Will keep looking.
Best wishes,
Gwyneth
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eager
Hello Gwyneth. Thanks.
Pinched your bottom whilst playing Wagner? Ride of the Valkyries, perhaps? (heh-heh)
Seriously, it seems that Kate was quite eager to get out AND on time.
Cheers.
LC
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The feather duster...phwoar...
Hi Gwy.erh
A little more water perhaps?
All the best!
Dave
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Flattery
Gentlemen! I am overwhelmed! I don't, as yet, have to wear a paper bag over my head when going out and it isn't so long ago that I had my bottom pinched at the opera (Wagner, not a favourite , and he was an elderly gentleman, so I can only conclude that he became overheated). Nevertheless, I strongly ssuspect that you only covet my feather duster. Now if someone would only notice my thoughts on Willie the pig farmer, my cup runneth over!
Back to Kate. According to The Ultimate JTR Sourcebook, Stewart Evans and Keith Skinner, Kate asked when she would be released at 12.30, roughly half an hour before the sergeant in charge told constable Hutt to check which prisoners could be released. Support for the rendezvous idea?
All good wishes,
C4/Gwy.erh
P.S. I am aware that "purport" is wrongly spelled in my Willie post - curse of the polyglot (would make a giood title for a horror film, thar)
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Originally posted by DVV View PostLooks like nobody has ever been in custody after some drinks here...
Shame.
It was a snowy night, it was christmas, and it was 1972
Wouldn't get away with that today.
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As litigious as the US is now, I've a feeling that if a woman were let out of prison today, and left to walk home in the small hours of the morning, and ended up murdered, her family would have a wrongful death lawsuit against the city, which they would probably win-- or rather, it would probably be settled out of court.
Of course, there are more options now: sending her home in a squad car; calling her a cab; releasing her to a family member; sending her to a hospital for a psych hold, so that when she got released, she'd definitely be sober and not in withdrawal, she'd get a shower and a night's sleep in a bed, and three square meals.
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Originally posted by RivkahChaya View PostI am proud to say I have never been in custody, period.
I hadn't done much at all - it was a period of zero tolerance in the town I come from.
The polis here like to keep you in the cells until say 5 in the morning, so that when they kick you out you have no way of getting home except a taxi or raising someone from their bed.
I think there is a decent chance they waited until the pubs were closed before showing Kate the door. When someone is locked up in a cell it is the polis making the decisions. Kate could have screamed the place down and I doubt it would have made any difference in terms of when she was let out. I suppose it makes sense for a law enforcement officer to wait until the pubs are shut before letting out someone blind drunk a few hours earlier.
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Looks like nobody has ever been in custody after some drinks here...
Shame.
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Originally posted by Monty View PostCity release there drunks when they were deemed sober, and clearly Eddowes was.
Ripperologist 75....I think.
Monty
(PC Hut) "I was directed by Sergeant Byfield to see if any of the prisoners were fit to be discharged. I found the deceased sober, and after she had given her name and address, she was allowed to leave."
How she made it through the door may have been of secondary concern.
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Silly Walks R Us
Hello Dave. Thanks.
"Oh Lynn, how can a Texan have such mastery of something that literally ruled a British lad's adolescence?"
Indeed. Phil Carter once told me that every boy in his school did a "silly walk" in honour of John Cleese.
"And, totally separately, (heh-heh) all your "strange" theories by all rights ought to repel me as far-fetched...All your stated doubts ought to incite me into posting against...And yet despite myself, I always find myself drawn trowards at least listening to what you say...from which I do pick up odd snippets, especially from Arbeiter Frant..."
Thanks!
"Christ Lynn that's almost a Eulogy...going soon are you?"
Well, if an old man's aches and pains are any indicator . . . (heh-heh)
Cheers.
LC
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Oh Lynn, how can a Texan have such mastery of something that literally ruled a British lad's adolescence?
And, totally separately, (heh-heh) all your "strange" theories by all rights ought to repel me as far-fetched...All your stated doubts ought to incite me into posting against...And yet despite myself, I always find myself drawn trowards at least listening to what you say...from which I do pick up odd snippets, especially from Arbeiter Frant...
Christ Lynn that's almost a Eulogy...going soon are you?
All the best
Dave
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