U.S. Presidential Election - November 3, 2020

[Svensson]

Which he caused himself....

[DJA]

It's like waking up from a bad dream.

Crikey ...... Nixon,Ray Gun,Dubya ..... Ranga.

[Bridewell]

There were rumours of electoral fraud in 2016 too. I don't recall Donald J Trump getting too upset on that occasion.

[Wickerman]

Cities all over the US have erupted in celebration which lasted all night, like a New Year Party all over again.
For many others last night will have been the first good night's sleep they've had in nearly four years.

[Harry D]

Trump Derangement Syndrome is more viral than bat flu.

[etenguy]

Viewing from the other side of the pond - I had to laugh at that press conference that wasn't at the four seasons hotel (but in a garden centre car park next to a sex shop). A real c*ck up.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Can anyone else envision the Army frog marching a twitching, quivering Trump out of the White House with him repeating "kill Biden" like Chief Inspector Dreyfuss after his meeting with Inspector Clouseau? Probably dressed as Napoleon.

I bet Melania's got her bags packed?

Bye Don.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Trump Derangement Syndrome is more viral than bat flu.

I bet Boris will miss him? Trump makes him look like Gladstone.

[MrBarnett]

I bet Boris will miss him? Trump makes him look like Gladstone.

Gerry Adams will be chuffed.

[Karl]

Hello Ms. Diddles,

Trump has only expressed his opinion at this point which he is completely entitled to do. He has not encouraged any violation of the law. His opinion is shared and echoed by many others as well.

So to answer your question - No. (my opinion only).

c.d.

This is taking great liberties with the truth. First of all, Trump has not said he suspects voter fraud, he says there is voter fraud - rampant voter fraud, at that, and that everybody knows it. He spreads demonstrably false rumours about observers being blocked, about ballots magically appearing etc. - not opinions, but fact statements - without a single shred of evidence, which one would be kind to call lies.

Second, these are not trivial lies - they are lies that can only enrage, and inflame people into action. Which has happened. Why do you think armed thugs showed up, and even stormed one polling station? It is because they believed those lies. Which brings me to my third point:

Third, yes: it is an "opinion" shared by many. But why is it shared by many? Because people like Trump has told them so. And even the OSCE has publicly chastised Trump - something they have never had to do before - precisely because his words encourage his followers to revolt against the system. Trump's words are dangerous, don't make excuses for him.

Fourth, how do we know Trump is lying, instead of making an honest mistake? Notwithstanding Trump's extremely black record when it comes to truth-telling, here's why:

Trump has:

-spent a year discouraging his supporters from voting by mail (even though he himself voted by mail in the primaries), falsely claiming voting by mail was especially susceptible to voter fraud - while at the same time Biden has been encouraging people to vote by mail. It doesn't take a genius to realise that the vast majority of mail-in ballots are going to be for Biden.
-done his best to sabotage the postal service, making sure that mail will take more time to reach its destination
-had Republicans block motions from certain key states to count mail-in ballots early, ensuring that these ballots would be counted after election day
-instructed the Supreme Court to order a cessation of counting past Election day - thus ensuring the vast majority of mail-in ballots would not be counted.

On the last point, Trump has only been partially successful, and not successful enough to ruin it for Biden. But, of course there is a plan B:

Trump announces his victory on election day, as soon as the in-person ballots are in his favour. Then, when they start counting the mail-in ballots, and the tide predictably turns in Biden's favour, Trump acts all surprised: "What's going on here? This can't be right! We had won, the election was over! Where did these votes come from?" Trump knew where the ballots were coming from, because he has spent the better part of the year fighting against the counting of them. But plant the rumour of election fraud, and his followers will be all too happy to believe it. And if you think this is just hindsight analysis, Bernie called it in October:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyGr_huFMh4

So has there been election fraud? There certainly has been attempted election fraud, but by Trump himself - there is no evidence, whatsoever, of election fraud from the Democrats at this point. And the rumours are known to be lies.

[Wickerman]

Trump, his family & close 'brown-nose' Republican supporters are all crying the same song, "count the legal votes, but not the illegal votes". Yet none of them are defining what they call an illegal vote. We know from months past that he called the mail-in vote illegal, but at that time he hadn't realized the military use the mail-in vote system, and they can't be seen to be disenfranchising the military, so they leave it vague.

They have no legal case for any of those charges, Guiliani as a long-time experienced attorney knows this, yet he only tells Trump what he wants to hear. He is milking Trump for all he can get out of him, this is plainly obvious.

Don Jr. is urging Daddy to continue the fight because he doesn't want them both to go to jail. The Southern District of New York will pounce on both of them with several criminal charges come January when they are out of office.

Trump will never concede, but I think he will try to use his twitter account to be an antagonist. Urging all his Evangelical Radicals, White Supremacists, the "non-college (barely) educated" followers who drive around in pick-up trucks; waving flags, toting guns, wearing bandana's, to generally make a bloody nuisance of themselves.
He is using them all, and will continue to use them because they are too stupid to see it.

[Ms Diddles]

I bet Melania's got her bags packed?

Bye Don.[/QUOTE]

[Svensson]

Trump running another con to scam his supporters out of their hard-earned money.

[Harry D]

Trump will never concede, but I think he will try to use his twitter account to be an antagonist. Urging all his Evangelical Radicals, White Supremacists, the "non-college (barely) educated" followers who drive around in pick-up trucks; waving flags, toting guns, wearing bandana's, to generally make a bloody nuisance of themselves.
He is using them all, and will continue to use them because they are too stupid to see it.

Radical leftists are literally burning American cities to the ground and you're still obsessing over "muh white supremacist" bogeymen.

[caz]

'Literally', Harry? So which American cities are currently being burned to the ground? I should have thought any civil unrest following the recent result would be caused by the losers.