On The Trail Of The Forgers

[Ally]

Read your book? You must be joking. I don't have to. I saw the whole sorry story get practiced right here on Casebook. Including the time you couldn't decide whether you were going to slander Rumbelow or Feldman then when your butt got jumped over the mere suggestion that Rumbelow was involved, and of course, his still being alive and capable of suing you for slander, you decided to frame Feldman instead.

No I won't be reading your sleazy hoax Powell. I wouldn't put a dime in your pocket.

And what happened to me is the same thing that happens to everyone when they get fed up with liars and thieves. They quit putting up with it.

[Steve Powell]

Flogging a dead Ally.

Ally said:

"You are a total freaking slime bag. You invented a complete hoax about a hoax to sell it and make money. You lied when you said you found a publisher interested in your story. You are publishing through a vanity press that would publish any trite piece of crap as long as someone paid them to do it.

You slander every single person involved tangentially to the Diary and offer NOTHING not one single shred of evidence. Your "memory" of events changes every time the wind blows.

You are a liar and your book is a bigger hoax than the Diary ever was or could be. At least the people who hoaxed the diary didn't slander their former friends and drag their name through the mud in their selfish pathetic attemptto be famous and make money."

I didn't invent anything gal.
I haven't lied about anything either.
Vanity Press? Crap?
Wrong again.
Slander?
Nope.
Not a shred of evidence?
Read the book.
My memory is fantastic.
A pathetic attempt to be famous and make money?
If I had wanted that I would have sold out and become a 'pop star'.
Seems like I'm just a hippy that never gave up the cause.
What happened to you Ally?

Steve Powell

[Graham]

Am I missing something rather important? Or is it the strong drink served in this Pub talking?

I didn't know anyone had established who 'hoaxed the diary' or who their friends were, never mind what they certainly did or didn't do to them afterwards.

Aw, Gee-whiz, Ms Morris. Just struck me that Ally might have - I say might have - been referring to those folk in Liverpool, that's all. And slag each other off they surely did.

Chiz,

Graham

[The Good Michael]

And the poor beast wasn't fit for feline consumption when he bought it.

Well, it looks like some are chomping at the bit. Me, I've got saddle sores. An equine rack of ribs aren't clearing them up any time soon.

Cheers,

Mike

[caz]

At least the people who hoaxed the diary didn't slander their former friends and drag their name through the mud in their selfish pathetic attempt to be famous and make money.

No, but they certainly slagged each other off, big time.

It's good to see that no matter what else changes in life, people are still beating this dead horse into glue.

Am I missing something rather important? Or is it the strong drink served in this Pub talking?

I didn't know anyone had established who 'hoaxed the diary' or who their friends were, never mind what they certainly did or didn't do to them afterwards.

I do know that anyone who can establish that much would be a poor fool to fanny around for an eternity with a vanity press, or make such claims here in Pub Talk, when they could have got themselves a relatively lucrative publishing deal to 'reveal all'.

Hi Brian,

If you think it's 'good' to see people beat dead horses into glue perhaps you've been away too long at the wrong kind of website.

You may want to get your eyesight checked too, unless it's the beer here giving you the old multiplying eye. Only Stevie Baby is trying to flog a dead horse around here - the one he was sold to get his Nonsense Omnibus going. And the poor beast wasn't fit for feline consumption when he bought it.

Love,

Caz
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[DeltaXi65]

It's good to see that no matter what else changes in life, people are still beating this dead horse into glue.

B

[The Good Michael]

I think it would be helpful to all readers of the Boards if Steve Powell could give us all a time-line - his picture of how events unfolded here in the UK after the Diary came to London. Perhaps he could go through chapter one of my book and explain briefly where I have gone wrong about the order of events and the people involved?

Shirley,

Please don't make us sit through another year of remembering, misremembering, creating, corroborating, collaborating, and alzheimer's. It was a painful process. Honestly.

Mike

[Graham]

You invented a complete hoax about a hoax to sell it and make money. You lied when you said you found a publisher interested in your story. You are publishing through a vanity press that would publish any trite piece of crap as long as someone paid them to do it.

Good point! Over to you, Steve....

At least the people who hoaxed the diary didn't slander their former friends and drag their name through the mud in their selfish pathetic attempt to be famous and make money

No, but they certainly slagged each other off, big time.

I think it would be helpful to all readers of the Boards if Steve Powell could give us all a time-line - his picture of how events unfolded here in the UK after the Diary came to London. Perhaps he could go through chapter one of my book and explain briefly where I have gone wrong about the order of events and the people involved?

Wishful thinking, I fear, Shirley.

Cheers,

Graham

Shirley? Surely you haven't run away from my questions have you?
Has somebody told you to not answer those simple questions from me?
I wonder who that could be - as if I didn't know.
Or are you just too busy or can't quite work out how to use the computer?
Come on Shirley, you can at least answer me.

Steve Powell

Dear Steve,

OK the answer to your questions are simple. I have no idea who told the so called "fraternity" that Feldman was dead. I guess that his family must have passed the news on. Neither have I any information on his burial or cremation - I was not involved in any way with his circle of friends. I met Robbie Johnson twice. I have absolutely no idea what happened to him or whether he was left in Spain.

No-one tells me what to do -I take advice from my agent of nearly 50 years. That's it.

Here are two suggestions for Steve.

I think it would be helpful to all readers of the Boards if Steve Powell could give us all a time-line - his picture of how events unfolded here in the UK after the Diary came to London. Perhaps he could go through chapter one of my book and explain briefly where I have gone wrong about the order of events and the people involved?

He is right that I did not respond because I am deeply immersed in my next book (not about Maybrick) and rarely look at the fantasies on the Boards.

[Ally]

That's right Steve,

You are a total freaking slime bag. You invented a complete hoax about a hoax to sell it and make money. You lied when you said you found a publisher interested in your story. You are publishing through a vanity press that would publish any trite piece of crap as long as someone paid them to do it.

You slander every single person involved tangentially to the Diary and offer NOTHING not one single shred of evidence. Your "memory" of events changes every time the wind blows.

You are a liar and your book is a bigger hoax than the Diary ever was or could be. At least the people who hoaxed the diary didn't slander their former friends and drag their name through the mud in their selfish pathetic attempt to be famous and make money.

Slimebag.

[Steve Powell]

Where's Shirley?

Shirley? Surely you haven't run away from my questions have you?
Has somebody told you to not answer those simple questions from me?
I wonder who that could be - as if I didn't know.
Or are you just too busy or can't quite work out how to use the computer?
Come on Shirley, you can at least answer me.

Steve Powell

[Steve Powell]

The slimebag slithers back

You, a moderator of this casebook should call me a 'slimebag!'
What a nerve you have 'possum.'
As far as 'trying to decide who to frame for your book';
you are trying to deliberately sway the troopers here with your own
slag presumptions.
I've known all along just who the forgers, hoaxers and liars are,
so don't come the raw prawn with me on that.
get a life and report me if you like,
that is the only 'power' you have, dingbat.
And don't bother answering me as I'm sick of hearing from you!

[Ally]

Steve,

You didn't really think you'd get away with just avoiding it did you? See, I remember when you were trying to decide who to frame for your book and you made a little comment about both Rumbelow and Feldman as you couldn't quite "remember" who had done it, and then when everyone jumped your ass about Rumbelow, you conveniently "remembered" it was Feldman.

And now you are doing the same thing to Skinner. The fact that you have refused to clarify means you are in fact accusing Skinner of having something to do with the Diary forgery. Who next? Stewart Evans? Slimebag.

[Steve Powell]

England Shirley

Howdy Shirley,
Nice to hear from you here on the 'trail'.
You have asked my publisher on several occasions for any information on the details of my upcoming book,
unfortunately, as he has told you, any info that you seek
cannot be had at the moment as that would go against the rules of publishing.
I'm sure you know this as you yourself did the same with your book on the matter.
As much as I would like to talk to you about the case,
I simply can't at the moment but will do so freely after its release.
And in fact I am looking forward to talking with you about it.
But let's not leave the troopers with nothing shall we?
Let me ask you a couple of questions while you're here.
A: Just who was it that told the ripperologist fraternity that Feldman was dead? And was he buried or cremated?
I would like to hear an answer to this simple question if you would.
And here's another to keep the troopers on the ball.
B: Did you attend the funeral of Robbie Johnson? And was he buried or cremated?
Simple questions in all. Nothing that needs to be held secret in any way.
But as far as I go, you will have to do the same thing I did when I bought your book: buy mine.
Best regards to you Shirley.

Steve Powell.

[caz]

Hi Stevie Baby,

Not sure what you mean by 'trying like hell to keep me from gaining any ground in the truth dept'. How exactly have I been preventing you from telling the truth? Talk about a man blaming a woman for his own shortcomings.

Your 'views' of course would be a very different matter, because views are things one has in the absence of knowing the truth, and you do more than I ever could to 'destroy' them.

I think you have got things backwards because Keith has never claimed the diary isn't a hoax and he and everyone else could see from the beginning that it certainly wasn't in the recognised hand of JM, and any attempt to cover that up would have got us both a one-way ticket to the funny farm before you appeared on the scene with your funny little claims.

I'm happy to discuss anything you want right here in the open, so no, I have no desire to post you 'a private message' of any sort.

But if I knew the truth about who wrote the diary, when and why, and could prove it (as you appear to believe) what would I be needing to keep an open mind for? Father Christmas? I'd have been straight onto my agent, securing a commission to write the book you keep claiming has already been written by your good self, telling the ultimate, final, complete, case closed, true face of the diary and my part in its downfall - for the benefit of everyone who has ever been touched in any way, positive or negative, by the damned thing.

Love,

Caz
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