EU Vote

[Mayerling]

I'm not too sure what Trump ready stands for, and he probably doesn't either. However, I suspect that, like Homer Simpson, he probably doesn't go in for too much profound thinking. However, unlike "The Don" Homer did make at least one profound statement:

"Beer: The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems."

Hi John,

It took me awhile to "trump" the quote on beer from the great Homer Simpson.

From "All in the Family" - Archie Bunker: "You never can enjoy a good beer permanently - you can only borrow it for awhile!"

Jeff

[Robert]

"Evil attacks the weakest, denies truth & love, is defeated through Jesus Christ. Pray for France, for victims, for their communities." - Justin Welby

Does Welby have anything more solid?

[GUT]

Jf we are still considering Homer Simpson, he doesn't say "MMMM....Bacon...." but "MMMMM...Donuts!!!!" He even enjoyed (in a fantasy episode) the fact that it was raining donuts outside his home.

Jeff

Man after me own heart, Homer.

[Mayerling]

How about

"Pork, Bacon, Ham, all off one animal, a mystical magical animal".

Jf we are still considering Homer Simpson, he doesn't say "MMMM....Bacon...." but "MMMMM...Donuts!!!!" He even enjoyed (in a fantasy episode) the fact that it was raining donuts outside his home.

Jeff

[GUT]

I'm not too sure what Trump ready stands for, and he probably doesn't either. However, I suspect that, like Homer Simpson, he probably doesn't go in for too much profound thinking. However, unlike "The Don" Homer did make at least one profound statement:

"Beer: The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems."

How about

"Pork, Bacon, Ham, all off one animal, a mystical magical animal".

[Fleetwood Mac]

Blimey, you're on fire, FM.

I'm only here for a bit crack on, Caz - you know that!

The 'people' would jump at a referendum on giving us all a million pounds each, or abolishing income tax, athlete's foot or dandruff, but if Cameron had promised one, would you have said 'fair play to him'?

What on earth is the significance of this?

The people would jump at a referendum 'on athlete's foot'?

Are you another one who thinks 'the people' are stupid and you alone and associated left-wingers hold the solution?

It's not about what I personally prefer, though, is it? If Cameron knew the will of the majority was to leave the EU, then yes, he did the honourable thing by not trying to escape from his referendum promise. But did he know? I actually gave him the benefit of the doubt when I said he must have had an inkling if he considered that promise to be a vote catcher, and it duly got him back into number ten. Other posters believe the Brexit vote caught him completely by surprise, so it's far from cut and dried.

Love,

Caz
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They always knew it was touch and go, as opinion polls suggested.

[Fleetwood Mac]

IF Corbyn had believed in Leaving, I think he would have made a more factual contribution to the debate than the other leavers and it is likely that the whole debate would have been held in a more civilised and productive manner than it was.

Corbyn is typical of the left-wing's stance that migrant labour usurps centuries of hard won workers' rights, at the expense of labour in favour of business.

He doesn't believe in the EU at all, never has done.

What we really need in this country are politicians who are prepared to stand up for what they believe in, prepared to put principles before the outcome; and even though I don't like Labour I would have been prepared to vote for them had he followed his convictions. Because it would have been a step down the road to returning politics to convictions over style, and in this day and age we're crying out for substance and substance would triumph over beliefs when it comes to my voting choice.

[Svensson]

IF Corbyn had believed in Leaving, I think he would have made a more factual contribution to the debate than the other leavers and it is likely that the whole debate would have been held in a more civilised and productive manner than it was.

[Fleetwood Mac]

I think your correct about Corbyn, and frankly his response to the result-"I did my best" was pathetic, because frankly mate, your best wasn't nearly good enough.

Corbyn has presented himself as a principled, conviction politician, and it's therefore his own fault that he allowed himself to be steamrolled into supporting, albeit in a lacklustre way, something he probably didn't believe in. Frankly he should have stuck to his guns and I'm afraid he's only got himself to blame for not doing so.

What I will give you is that during Theresa May's first PMs question time, Corbyn raised serious issues for discussion, while May resorted to petty insults and generally made an absolute arsehole of herself. Corbyn looked every bit the more serious politician.

That said, Corbyn doesn't believe in the EU, never has done, but he forgot those principles when it came to his career. In my view, better to be hanged as a sheep than a lamb, and perhaps Corbyn didn't have the courage of his convictions when it really got down to the nitty-gritty. Just another politician I suppose.

But, that sort of thing wins and loses votes. Had Corbyn stuck to his guns, then it would certainly have caught my attention and I'm prepared to vote for anyone who holds conviction, and would have looked at the Labour Party differently in the event he had stood his ground.

[John G]

Best two things about the Republican Convention so far:

1) Ivanka Trump's plagiarizing the speech of the present First Lady from 2008 (when Mr. Obama was nominated for the first time). I love this because it shows how stupid she is (she was given a typed speech by her husband's speech writers, disliked it, and the new one was "created"), and she chose to steal from the wife of a man that Mr. Trump feels was illegally elected President because he wasn't born in Hawaii to U.S. citizens, but in Kenya to Muslim Kenyan citizens. Great choice for her to steal from there!! I know some flunky has "'fessed up" that she, not Ivanka, was guilty about this, and in an interview on Channel 7 news in N.Y.C. Trump told George Stephanapoulos that his wife's secretary "made a mistake" and "we all make mistakes" so he is not accepting her resignation. Believe me, if this gaffe was actually made by the flunky, Trump would have her head on a platter.

2) Senator Cruz's speech last night. In the midst of such odious pigs like Newt Gingrich and Chris Christy jumping up and down on the Trump bandwagon in the last month or two (especially Christy, who was Trump's rival for the nomination a few months before), Cruz (who was really targeted by Trump's lying, big mouth - and whose wife was targeted too), at first did not want to speak at the convention for Trump. The New York Times, in yesterday's paper, when it discussed this pointed out that Cruz by agreeing to speak for Trump was running true to type as an opportunist.

I have no real respect for Cruz in terms of his opinons, but he apparently has long supported the official, modern, Republican line of thought because he believes in it. Trump has watered down and reversed himself recently because he has tried to get more Republican backing from the right and center. In the real world he probably doesn't care for the issues that they pick up on. But he plays to win - he likes power (yeah, so do most politicians, but he likes the fancy outer covers of power - the private limos, jets, and names on buildings he stole from investors). Cruz did show up and speak - and when he appeared the auditorium of delegates broke into cheers thinking he was doing the same as Gingrich, Christy and company. He did go into an attack on eight years of Democratic initiatives and actions he felt were contrary to Republican demands. That was to be expected. What was not expected was he ended the speech WITHOUT ENDORSING DONALD TRUMP!!! The same delegate filled audience booed Cruz as he left the stage, for he failed to complete his expected surrender. One hopes he does not reneg on this action, as it showed more backbone in him than I expected. It also showed that Trump really alienated many Republicans in his "successful" demonstration of "the art of the steal". He could still win. But it is going to be difficult, and it may prove too hard for his Vice President (chosen for his ability to handle Congressmen because he was once in Congress) to really build enough support for Trump led initiatives.

Jeff

I'm not too sure what Trump ready stands for, and he probably doesn't either. However, I suspect that, like Homer Simpson, he probably doesn't go in for too much profound thinking. However, unlike "The Don" Homer did make at least one profound statement:

"Beer: The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems."

[Geddy2112]

Have you ever considered going into politics yourself..?

No because I do not tell fibs and could not rip people off just to suit my own agenda.

[Mayerling]

Best two things about the Republican Convention so far:

1) Ivanka Trump's plagiarizing the speech of the present First Lady from 2008 (when Mr. Obama was nominated for the first time). I love this because it shows how stupid she is (she was given a typed speech by her husband's speech writers, disliked it, and the new one was "created"), and she chose to steal from the wife of a man that Mr. Trump feels was illegally elected President because he wasn't born in Hawaii to U.S. citizens, but in Kenya to Muslim Kenyan citizens. Great choice for her to steal from there!! I know some flunky has "'fessed up" that she, not Ivanka, was guilty about this, and in an interview on Channel 7 news in N.Y.C. Trump told George Stephanapoulos that his wife's secretary "made a mistake" and "we all make mistakes" so he is not accepting her resignation. Believe me, if this gaffe was actually made by the flunky, Trump would have her head on a platter.

2) Senator Cruz's speech last night. In the midst of such odious pigs like Newt Gingrich and Chris Christy jumping up and down on the Trump bandwagon in the last month or two (especially Christy, who was Trump's rival for the nomination a few months before), Cruz (who was really targeted by Trump's lying, big mouth - and whose wife was targeted too), at first did not want to speak at the convention for Trump. The New York Times, in yesterday's paper, when it discussed this pointed out that Cruz by agreeing to speak for Trump was running true to type as an opportunist.

I have no real respect for Cruz in terms of his opinons, but he apparently has long supported the official, modern, Republican line of thought because he believes in it. Trump has watered down and reversed himself recently because he has tried to get more Republican backing from the right and center. In the real world he probably doesn't care for the issues that they pick up on. But he plays to win - he likes power (yeah, so do most politicians, but he likes the fancy outer covers of power - the private limos, jets, and names on buildings he stole from investors). Cruz did show up and speak - and when he appeared the auditorium of delegates broke into cheers thinking he was doing the same as Gingrich, Christy and company. He did go into an attack on eight years of Democratic initiatives and actions he felt were contrary to Republican demands. That was to be expected. What was not expected was he ended the speech WITHOUT ENDORSING DONALD TRUMP!!! The same delegate filled audience booed Cruz as he left the stage, for he failed to complete his expected surrender. One hopes he does not reneg on this action, as it showed more backbone in him than I expected. It also showed that Trump really alienated many Republicans in his "successful" demonstration of "the art of the steal". He could still win. But it is going to be difficult, and it may prove too hard for his Vice President (chosen for his ability to handle Congressmen because he was once in Congress) to really build enough support for Trump led initiatives.

Jeff

[Harry D]

I think it's funny that you think these politicians even run the show. They're puppets.

[Robert]

I worry about Trump all the time. I awake in the night with palpitations, thanks to Trump. I haven't eaten for ten days, thanks to Trump.

Who is he?

[Svensson]

And you are temporarily insane.

Love,

Caz
X

I am comfortable with that.