Who Killed Julia Wallace? - New Evidence

[WallaceWackedHer]

Yawn...

"Also Wallace walked past Caird's home on his way to the first tram stop on the night of the murder...."

NOPE.

You see, anyone who knows the area, or is a real researcher of the case, understands that no-one would take that unnecessary, fanciful route.

Because there was an alley next to 24 Richmond Park (next to the Church Institute) which leads into Sedley Street, A left turn into Pendennis Street, then a right into Castlewood Road leads to Belmont Road where Wallace caught a Number 26 tram on the night of the murder.

The correct alley route is the one filmed in the excellent "Man from the Pru" film... (excellent when it sticks to facts, less so with its flights of fancy)

Oh, and I do hope all those sock-puppets who spent a thread talking gibberish to themselves took their once chance offered by the Mods to fess-up?

Yes I know the route, it's stated very clearly in Hussey's book, are you familiar with that one? Brief memory lapse my end.

Hussey's theory is okay (that someone posed as Qualtrough to sneakily steal from the house), it just doesn't work with one person for obvious reasons. Better you have someone in the front and the back.

Hussey's "Mr. Qualtrough" in the front, somebody else in the back. Then a case can be made for that. I wish Antony had put some thought into it and made the idea into something feasible because it can work, but it seems like he chose to copy two previous authors without expanding upon their idea which is disappointing. That's capitalism though... Publishers want, authors deliver, all about the bottom line!

I am also saddened about the miss of the importance that McCartney asked at the club where Wallace lived, which he answers, because that event is very important for potential readers.

Chess club members have the means to carry out this act if Wallace gave his address in that club (because he also spoke extensively about details of his trip). Caird has the most of all of course, due to the facts listed.

Caird is criminally underinvestigated... Seeing as he knows Wallace's business, the client he's meeting, the time of the appointment, the location of the appointment, the route he's going to take, the interior of Wolverton Street to a remarkable degree, and can verify Wallace's receipt of the call.

Adding to this he was not expected on the Monday, but regularly attended on Thursdays when Parry would be there, and had at least 2 mutual acquaintances with Parry who is the best suspect as the caller.

[moste]

That's because he does. The very best out of anyone but the Johnstons and Holmes or anyone else on that strip of houses.

He can watch one way from his actual home.

He wouldn't have to watch both entrances anyway, but if someone did, at WORST it's one turn. They only have to stand at the bottom of Richmond Park, NOT on the Breck Road end, the other side.

Caird can’t watch anything down his own street because the houses are staggered , as in, not aligned.

[moste]

Yawn...

"Also Wallace walked past Caird's home on his way to the first tram stop on the night of the murder...."

NOPE.

You see, anyone who knows the area, or is a real researcher of the case, understands that no-one would take that unnecessary, fanciful route.

Because there was an alley next to 24 Richmond Park (next to the Church Institute) which leads into Sedley Street, A left turn into Pendennis Street, then a right into Castlewood Road leads to Belmont Road where Wallace caught a Number 26 tram on the night of the murder.

The correct alley route is the one filmed in the excellent "Man from the Pru" film... (excellent when it sticks to facts, less so with its flights of fancy)

Oh, and I do hope all those sock-puppets who spent a thread talking gibberish to themselves took their one chance offered by the Mods to fess-up?

Does this work for you Sherlock H?

[moste]

Having studied the ‘drone’ view , (google, earth) it would appear that the end of terrace of Mr. Cairds Street , didn’t lend itself for an alley , though alley’s abounded in these areas , in this case it doesn’t appear architecturally possible. Am I wrong?

[WallaceWackedHer]

Caird can’t watch anything down his own street because the houses are staggered , as in, not aligned.

Let me check this, I think there's a good vantage point onto Richmond Park at that time. There's a contemporary photo in one of the older books. I THINK it's Hussey's. I posted it on an earlier page, it's a picture taken from the point I mentioned at the bottom of Richmond Park (not the Breck Road end) which was taken to show where someone could have stood alone to watch both entrances at the same time.

It might be Morland's book even. I know I've posted it in this thread earlier though.

Either way the very underinvestigated Caird apparently reached his home at 7.45 on the murder night which is after Wallace had left. No corroboration that I have access to (I assume family backed him up - but no verification on others who confirmed when he left his shop etc), but this would be after Wallace had departed an hour earlier, so he himself did not perform a stakeout in any case.

But for Wallace's total innocence, of course Caird's involvement is most supported by factually proven evidence over any other party. Considering he was a close friend, not hard up etc. I don't really see him doing something like that to Wallace (albeit an intruder clearly carefully left Wallace's own keepsakes like the dollar in the cash box. Was it only the Pru's money that was stolen?)... But I am speaking purely of the KNOWN facts, forgetting his character and personal tendency to see him as genuine, he is a chart topper no doubt.

[RodCrosby]

Having studied the ‘drone’ view , (google, earth) it would appear that the end of terrace of Mr. Cairds Street , didn’t lend itself for an alley , though alley’s abounded in these areas , in this case it doesn’t appear architecturally possible. Am I wrong?

There were two alleys from Letchworth Street feeding into the alley I mentioned.

But for Wallace's journey on 20th January 1931, Letchworth Street would have been a ludicrous, unnecessary dog-leg and double-back...

The alley by-passed Letchworth Street completely....

[moste]

Quite right , I was thinking access to castlewood road from letchworth would be a quick short cut for the direction Wallace needed, but as I say, then, as now, not accessible.

[WallaceWackedHer]

Quite right , I was thinking access to castlewood road from letchworth would be a quick short cut for the direction Wallace needed, but as I say, then, as now, not accessible.

Okay it was Hussey's book as I presumed (coincidentally the man who first came up with the theory Antony favours, after Roland Oliver). Here's the map of the route which is one of the clearest:

https://i.imgur.com/Wpo4s8A.png

And here's some contemporary photographs which can be matched up with the above diagram:

https://i.imgur.com/3aUcF50.png

https://i.imgur.com/XLNcNi2.png

Doesn't mark 3 Letchworth unfortunately. But as said I had a brief memory lapse of the route anyway (I think from playing with the route on Google Maps, which doesn't let you put the marker down the church alley)... But from very near Caird's home as you can see, there are 3 vantage points. I would imagine perhaps a metre or two from his front door would allow someone a perfect view onto Richmond Park and the two alleyways Wallace used... And then of course there are 2 more connecting alleys that could get a very brief glimpse of someone going down past the church.

Whether someone could see something from the top window of the home itself I'm not sure.

[RodCrosby]

Quite right , I was thinking access to castlewood road from letchworth would be a quick short cut for the direction Wallace needed, but as I say, then, as now, not accessible.

Gardens and walls within the curtilage of the old Belmont Road Hospital (aka Newsham General Hospital) blocked that route, then as now... [my grandfather died in that place in 1946]

[WallaceWackedHer]

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Haha well, what do you know, it looks like someone at Caird's home actually COULD see Wallace going on his journey if the architecture is the same (those are garden walls, a top story window should give a vantage point over those):

https://i.imgur.com/GqTw7dQ.png

Well I didn't expect that... If a person at 3 Letchworth could watch the entry from Wolverton Street I am not sure, but see what you think:

https://i.imgur.com/JVBQWqC.png

It might be CENTIMETERS off of being possible that direction.

But in any case you can see that if a "stake out" was going to happen, it would definitely not be difficult for anyone in that home to get themselves into a suitable vantage point...

I don't even see WHY a stake out is necessary though. It's a stupid line by the prosecution. All someone has to do is go to the door and ask if Mr. Wallace is home. Why do they need to watch him leave rather than just turning up at, say, 7:15 PM or some time after which they KNOW he has to be out if he was trying to make the appointment? If he's in they can make an excuse or just leave, no crime has been committed.

[RodCrosby]

(coincidentally the man who first came up with the theory Antony favours, after Roland Oliver).

Still posting malicious disinformation...? [no worries, it's all you have]

Antony's selection of the best explanation for the Wallace murder could not be based on your disinformation, for at least two reasons...

a) it is based on three pieces of evidence not available until Oliver and Hussey were long dead ! [Parkes's and Parry's and the Lloyds' statements]

b) solely on that real "new evidence" I abduced the Correct Solution to the Wallace Case in 2007/2008, I had only read Goodman, Wilkes and Murphy at that point [and yes, i can prove that]

[WallaceWackedHer]

Still posting malicious disinformation...? [no worries, it's all you have]

Antony's selection of the best explanation for the Wallace murder could not be based on your disinformation, for at least two reasons...

a) it is based on three pieces of evidence not available until Oliver and Hussey were long dead [Parkes's and Parry's and the Lloyds' statements]

b) solely on that real "new evidence" I abduced the Correct Solution to the Wallace Case in 2007/2008, I had only read Goodman, Wilkes and Murphy at that point [and yes, i can prove that]

What are you talking about?

I literally have the book in my hands, the events proposed are identical. Have you not read it? There's also another author after Hussey who briefly glosses over the idea.

Antony has used Hussey's theory from what I can see. Do you want me to photograph the pages as proof?

He can't just add a couple of statements and say it's a new theory. That's like saying the idea Wallace killed her wearing his raincoat was made up by Murphy.

Be under NO illusion anybody reading. I can assure you that the events, Parry ringing, then an accomplice going to the home posing as "Qualtrough" and trying to sneak burgle the place, was explored in detail by Robert F. Hussey and I can post photographs to prove this is fact.

It's kind of irrelevant anyway because Hussey's theory is the worst ever in terms of plausibility. It only works with two people without it being pure pantomine. I can write a much, much more logically sound version. I actually think with two people it becomes a decent proposal.

[moste]

Gardens and walls within the curtilage of the old Belmont Road Hospital (aka Newsham General Hospital) blocked that route, then as now... [my grandfather died in that place in 1946]

Mmh! Looking again at the 90 deg. bend in Richmond park there is actually a cobbled curve in the roadway stopping at a newer wall, indicating that it is quite likely that Castlewood actually extended past it’s now dead end, giving easy thoroughfare from the end of Letchworths back alley to Castlewood. All purely academic now of course. I think your straight lines on your photo are drawn between Richmond park and Letchworth, Wwh. Not Wolverton .

[WallaceWackedHer]

Mmh! Looking again at the 90 deg. bend in Richmond park there is actually a cobbled curve in the roadway stopping at a newer wall, indicating that it is quite likely that Castlewood actually extended past it’s now dead end, giving easy thoroughfare from the end of Letchworths back alley to Castlewood. All purely academic now of course. I think your straight lines on your photo are drawn between Richmond park and Letchworth, Wwh. Not Wolverton .

The lines are from 3 Letchworth Street's top windows to one of the alleys Wallace passed on his route (as per Hussey's map), and the other to the back entry Wallace left from Wolverton Street which comes out onto Richmond park.

Hussey's diagram of the route is a good one as it's very clearly drawn with contemporary photographs actually showing the locations.

[RodCrosby]

What are you talking about?

I literally have the book in my hands, the events proposed are identical. Have you not read it? There's also another author after Hussey who briefly glosses over the idea.

Antony has used Hussey's theory from what I can see. Do you want me to photograph the pages as proof?

He can't just add a couple of statements and say it's a new theory. That's like saying the idea Wallace killed her wearing his raincoat was made up by Murphy.

Be under NO illusion anybody reading. I can assure you that the events, Parry ringing, then an accomplice going to the home posing as "Qualtrough" and trying to sneak burgle the place, was explored in detail by Robert F. Hussey and I can post photographs to prove this is fact.

GO ON THEN. Prove yourself either a liar [which we know already] or illiterate....

And of course it fails to address both my points a) and b).

Many authors (including Hussey) who doubt Wallace's guilt have over the years speculated on how "someone else" could have done it. Yawn...

I was the first to have all the evidence available to me and to abduce the Correct Solution of how it was done.

Which is why Antony chose MY theory, not theirs.... Yawn....