Madeleine McCann

[JeffHamm]

Yeah I am trying to steer clear of the British tabloids at the moment, far too much hearsay and sensationalism. Linking him to other crimes is of course what any good Police force would do. What does seem striking is that those who are investigating him think he was in or close to the areas where these children went missing. Of course I stress that does not mean he is guilty but rather he should be pursued as a suitable lead. As for the Madeleine McCann case there is a lot we don't know in regards Police information. The re-registering of his van the day after the disappearance seems to be key. German Police have confirmed they are working on trying to track down the owner of the phone number who rang him on the night. Some German papers are reporting the German Police believe this may have been a call from someone working with him. Whether that is true or not we don't know.

I think the one thing that has come out of the whole case is just how badly the Policia Judiciara got it. The investigation was a complete disaster. If this guy did slip through the net as it were then it would be a travesty. We will have to see if anymore comes of it though in regards this suspect. I hope the McCanns can some semblence of truth and maybe even retrieve a body.

Yah, I agree. He's a good lead, and like many good leads it will either lead to a solution, or it will fizzle out and he'll be shown to be not involved. Until the work is done, though, we won't know. The press finds it a good story to present him as if he's already guilty, though they are often careful to point out the evidence is not conclusive, etc. It will take months, I suspect, before any real update to this occurs. But for everybody's sake, particularly Maddie and her parents, a solution would be the best outcome.

- Jeff

[Abby Normal]

So you tell us what you would NEVER do whilst in a state of shock. Well there we are throw away the key. Kate McCann did different. Damning evidence right there. And can you explain how Gerry(not Jerry) managed to get so far out at the ocean that his daughter would not be washed up on shore elsewhere due to the tide. As for the rest of it- unsubstantiated nonsense with nothing to back it up except extracts from a mentally disturbed Mother who is having the worst thoughts imaginable about her missing, presumed abducted daughter. Instead of empathy you condemn. That says it all.

yup i have no empathy for the mcaans, i care about the little girl whom if they didnt kill her are directly responsible for her abduction.leaving their babies alone night after night so they can go get sauced with there equally idiotic friends. even after Madeleine that very morning cried to her mommy--why didnt you come last night when we cried? instead they dosed them up with sleeping pills left them alone again in a foreign town with the doors unlocked.

and the second theres a possible suspect, you use that opportunity to come back on here to attack one of my old posts and yet again defend the mccanns. no empathy or even words about Madeleine.

That says it all.

like another poster said.. you are a groveling apologist for the mcanns so you go on ignore. good riddance.

[Sunny Delight]

Hi Sunny Delight,

Yes, there's been a fair few number of articles about this suspect now, some indicating he's being considered linked, or of interest, in some other missing children cases. However, as history has shown, often any new suspect starts getting considered for other unsolved cases that have gone cold. So far, from what I can tell, there's nothing yet found that rules him out, and some information that does indicate he's a suitable lead (as you mention, he was in the area at the time, has a criminal history involving sex offenses against minors, etc). However, as of yet, there does not appear to be anything yet that solidly ties him to the case. He's apparently made some suspicious comments in the past, that sort of sound like he knows something, etc, but that happens quite a bit even when someone turns out to be uninvolved (how those comments are interpreted, and even remembered, can be coloured by the fact he's currently being looked at). If he's involved, hopefully something will be found to bring a resolution. If he's not, despite him being despicable, no justice is achieved if he's not cleared of this particular offense.

- Jeff

Yeah I am trying to steer clear of the British tabloids at the moment, far too much hearsay and sensationalism. Linking him to other crimes is of course what any good Police force would do. What does seem striking is that those who are investigating him think he was in or close to the areas where these children went missing. Of course I stress that does not mean he is guilty but rather he should be pursued as a suitable lead. As for the Madeleine McCann case there is a lot we don't know in regards Police information. The re-registering of his van the day after the disappearance seems to be key. German Police have confirmed they are working on trying to track down the owner of the phone number who rang him on the night. Some German papers are reporting the German Police believe this may have been a call from someone working with him. Whether that is true or not we don't know.

I think the one thing that has come out of the whole case is just how badly the Policia Judiciara got it. The investigation was a complete disaster. If this guy did slip through the net as it were then it would be a travesty. We will have to see if anymore comes of it though in regards this suspect. I hope the McCanns can some semblence of truth and maybe even retrieve a body.

[JeffHamm]

Hi Jeff. This guy does seem to be very interesting in regards being a lead. It seems he was a burglar who had a couple of convictions from his teenage years for exposing himself to a child and committing acts of an indecent nature. It also seems that his phone records can place him in PDL at half 7 on the fateful night. That is not significant in itself but it certainly means he cannot be discounted as being in a different country or location. The theory seems to be that he was robbing local hotels with the help of employees who would tip him off. He received such a tip the night Madeleine McCann went missing, broke in to rob the place but his paedo 'instincts' took over and he took Madeleine on a spur of the moment.

It has always been that type of theory that has seemed most likely to me. It may have been a billion to one chance that it happened but it did. So we have a local burglar with convictions for indecency with children who can be placed in PDL that night and who it is suggested was working with hotel employees in order to rob the rooms. If anything he should be worthy of a really close look.

Hi Sunny Delight,

Yes, there's been a fair few number of articles about this suspect now, some indicating he's being considered linked, or of interest, in some other missing children cases. However, as history has shown, often any new suspect starts getting considered for other unsolved cases that have gone cold. So far, from what I can tell, there's nothing yet found that rules him out, and some information that does indicate he's a suitable lead (as you mention, he was in the area at the time, has a criminal history involving sex offenses against minors, etc). However, as of yet, there does not appear to be anything yet that solidly ties him to the case. He's apparently made some suspicious comments in the past, that sort of sound like he knows something, etc, but that happens quite a bit even when someone turns out to be uninvolved (how those comments are interpreted, and even remembered, can be coloured by the fact he's currently being looked at). If he's involved, hopefully something will be found to bring a resolution. If he's not, despite him being despicable, no justice is achieved if he's not cleared of this particular offense.

- Jeff

[Sunny Delight]

Hi Caz and WWH
to me the most telling thing that points to the parents, and its somewhat subtle and not emphasized enough, is that when kate realizes Maddie is gone she immediately leaves the apartment to go back to the restaurant, leaving the twins unattended. Not in a million years.
apparently she assumes an abductor right off, what with the woosh of the door and the window being open.
so shes going to leave the twins alone, thinking that an abductor/s was responsible and could still be nearby and possibly after the other babies as well?!? cmon.

and similarily while the investigation is still going on and theres still hope, BOTH parents are going to leave and go home. give me a break. they did it ands it not even that much of a mystery to me.

the only remaining question is why what happened? I think the dosing has something to do with it and I agree they probably over/dosed her to keep her from waking up again and crying out. she died and or was murdered in that apartment, jerry took her body away probably down to the ocean and dumped her, they staged the apartment to look like a break in (but screwed up initial interview with police by saying they locked up-oops!) then went to dinner hoping someone else would discover her missing on their rounds.

I don't rule out at all that she was abused/killed manually either pre planned intentionally or in a fit of rage. I could see a scenario where they were trying to put her to sleep, dosed her shes being loud not going to bed and shes beaten to death, on or near the couch perhaps.

So you tell us what you would NEVER do whilst in a state of shock. Well there we are throw away the key. Kate McCann did different. Damning evidence right there. And can you explain how Gerry(not Jerry) managed to get so far out at the ocean that his daughter would not be washed up on shore elsewhere due to the tide. As for the rest of it- unsubstantiated nonsense with nothing to back it up except extracts from a mentally disturbed Mother who is having the worst thoughts imaginable about her missing, presumed abducted daughter. Instead of empathy you condemn. That says it all.