JFK Assassination Documents to be released this year

[FrankO]

As to the weapon, I'd favor something common and semi-auto, like the M1 Garand, which would be faster firing than a bolt-action.

That's what I've been thinking, too, Fiver. After all, the Carcano is at the root of thinking there was a conspiracy. Had it been a faster firing rifle, they would at least have avoided something that would have been easy to avoid.

[Paddy Goose]

Hi Paddy,

My only point was to correct a statement about the central focus of this web site. I wasn't saying that it's wrong for this site to have a JFK thread, or even more than one such thread. ...

Thank you Lewis for your reply. Please accept my apology because after reviewing that section of the thread I see now I clearly took you out of context. You were actually replying to another poster who said the lone gunman theory is central to this website.

Again, thank you,

Paddy

[Lewis C]

Thank you Lewis for your reply. Please accept my apology because after reviewing that section of the thread I see now I clearly took you out of context. You were actually replying to another poster who said the lone gunman theory is central to this website.

Again, thank you,

Paddy

It's quite alright, Paddy.

[Lewis C]

Most people don't want to talk about the same thing all the time; variety keeps things interesting.

cough, cough...JFK thread..cough, cough...Lechmere thread...cough, cough, the Diary thread.

c.d.

Well that at least is three things. Then there has also recently been discussion of William Bury, the Stride murder, the Eddowes murder, and other things. There are a few posters who seem primarily interested in one thing, but I think that most do not.

[FISHY1118]

Herlock we appreciate your passion. The single bullet however was debunked in 1963 by Connallys attending personal physician who was an expert in gunshot wounds. The proof was in the bullet hole location of Kennedys shirt and Connallys jacket bullet hole and entrance wound. There was no Yaw or tumbling in the bullet that hit Connally. It was proven to be a seperate bullet. The bullet that hit Connally also tunneled as it exited his check. Unlike the supposed single bullet theory which was never proven because Humes ( in the interest of haste?) decided not to trace the Kennedy entrance wounds. Believe whatever you want but the actual evidence gives another story.

From people who were there on the day v the warren commission months later.

I know which side I'm on PD .

The single bullet theory is just malarkey.

[Fiver]

From people who were there on the day v the warren commission months later.

I know which side I'm on PD

The majority of witnesses heard 2 or 3 shots.

The majority of witnesses believed the shots came from the Book Depository.

[Patrick Differ]

From people who were there on the day v the warren commission months later.

I know which side I'm on PD .

The single bullet theory is just malarkey.

There are 2 things People shoukd look at. The bullet holes in JFKs shirt and the bullet hole in Conallys Jacket.

The second is Connallys interview lying in bed at Parkland after being shot . He expained what happened and never deviated. He said it happened in seconds so keep that in mind. He said he heard the first shot, thought it was a firecracker and turned on his elbow to see Kennedy hit " and then" he was hit. Said he fell back and heard the shot that hit Kennedy in the head and lost consciousness upon seeing the secret service agent on top of the Kennedys.

So there was no tumbling bullet out of Kennedy but then Humes never traced the throat wound. After what Connally said matches the Zapruder film. Who would know better than him?

People believe what they want but evidence actually shows more than one shooter.

[Herlock Sholmes]

The autopsy and the Warren Commission didn’t. The investigation was completed September of 1964 but sadly the double-murdering, traitor scum Lee Harvey Oswald avoided justice and has now become a posthumous hero for some who are on some kind of warped mission.

[Fiver]

There are 2 things People shoukd look at. The bullet holes in JFKs shirt and the bullet hole in Conallys Jacket.

The bullet hole in the back of JFK's clothing shows what is called "bullet wipe", which means it was an entrance wound. The bullet hole in the back of Connally's clothing show that the bullet was tumbling before it struck him, meaning it had already passed through another object.

The clothing supports the single bullet theory.

[Patrick Differ]

The bullet hole in the back of JFK's clothing shows what is called "bullet wipe", which means it was an entrance wound. The bullet hole in the back of Connally's clothing show that the bullet was tumbling before it struck him, meaning it had already passed through another object.

The clothing supports the single bullet theory.

Not true. The bullet hole in Connallys jacket shows an entrance wound from a seperate shooter. Plus it matches what Connally said HE experienced from his hospital bed. Live interview. . Plus the bullet in Kennedys shirt does not align with the jacket or timing of the shots.

People can believe what they want but I think Connally, the victim, would actually know. Unlike Specter who had to make his bullet theory work. Its unfortunate Humes never traced the bullet wounds in Kennedys throat or back.

[cobalt]

but sadly the double-murdering, traitor scum Lee Harvey Oswald avoided justice

Emotive language consistent with the fanatic who sees his world disintegrating around him.

There is no convincing evidence that LHO killed once, never mind twice. So he is not a double murderer in legal terms. Anything else is malicious conjecture.

In addition, LHO did not choose to avoid justice: that decision was made on his behalf by person sympathetic to HS'
argument. Search the files and see if HS has ever called Jack Ruby the same names he calls LHO. He hates Oswald with a vengeance; but he does nor hate Jack Ruby. Jack was his man. HS is proud, it seems to me, that Ruby denied Oswald the right to justice.

I am happy to stand corrected.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Ruby was just mentally unbalanced. He ranted about Jews being killed in the street saying that he could hear their screams. LHO deliberately murdered two men. The evidence for this is overwhelming. Yes CT’s can use creative writing to try and say that everything was faked but it just rings hollow. A cop out. LHO defected to the Soviet Union so I’m just stating a fact. He told them that he would give information. He was therefore by definition a traitor. He attempted to kill Walker then he killed Kennedy and Tippit. There isn’t even a scintilla of doubt about this. He was 100% guilty. Without a shadow of a doubt. To some a hero…to me, a lowlife murderer.

People are quite free to disagree. But they are wrong. 60 years of wasted time and effort. No evidence of a conspiracy. Just comedy theories. Time for the world to let it go. Oswald…guilty. Sirhan…guilty. James Earl Ray….guilty. Too much time wasted on these people when all that they deserve is contempt.

[scottnapa]

The autopsy and the Warren Commission didn’t. The investigation was completed September of 1964 but sadly the double-murdering, traitor scum Lee Harvey Oswald avoided justice and has now become a posthumous hero for some who are on some kind of warped mission.

… but sadly the double-murdering, traitor scum Lee Harvled ey Oswald avoided justice and has now become a posthumous hero for some who are on some kind of warped mission.

I am not sure that dying in public qualifies as “avoiding justice”
The starting point for many in my generation is the killing of Oswald on TV.
I had seen lots of TV deaths, Cowboys and Indians, Nazis and Japs.
I had never seen a real person die. It was a shock on many levels.
My primary takeaway was that Oswald was the “Indian” in this show, as he was surrounded by Cowboys. It wasn’t a killing, it was a televised murder.

As a youth, my initial response was sympathy for the ambushed victim. I assumed Oswald was innocent. A patsy, as he proclaimed.
I have found FBI malfeasance as the agency conceals & camouflages evidence & CIA malfeasance as the agency deflects, cloaks & obstructs evidence & Warren Commission malfeasance as it glosses over uncomfortable facts and whitewashes unfriendly witnesses.
I have never claimed Oswald was innocent in the assasination of JFK. He is no hero.
I don’t believe I have ever seen this “hero” word used to describe
My idea of a hero is John Whitten. (SCELSO)

[FISHY1118]

There are 2 things People shoukd look at. The bullet holes in JFKs shirt and the bullet hole in Conallys Jacket.

The second is Connallys interview lying in bed at Parkland after being shot . He expained what happened and never deviated. He said it happened in seconds so keep that in mind. He said he heard the first shot, thought it was a firecracker and turned on his elbow to see Kennedy hit " and then" he was hit. Said he fell back and heard the shot that hit Kennedy in the head and lost consciousness upon seeing the secret service agent on top of the Kennedys.

So there was no tumbling bullet out of Kennedy but then Humes never traced the throat wound. After what Connally said matches the Zapruder film. Who would know better than him?

People believe what they want but evidence actually shows more than one shooter.

Its really important people understand the facts you mentioned Patrick . It was ''Plainly'' evident on the day those who were directly involved in the assassination who saw up close what the truth was on that day . More so Mr and Mrs Connally , Clint Hill , Parkland Hospital Drs , Nurse Audrey Bell and countless others, who,s testimonies all together make the Warren Ccommission look very very silly . Lets not forget that .

[FISHY1118]

The majority of witnesses heard 2 or 3 shots.

The majority of witnesses believed the shots came from the Book Depository.

The majority of the witnesses the warren commision let testify .

Not so the many that heard more than 3 shots and where they came from .