Originally posted by Fiver
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JFK Assassination Documents to be released this year
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Originally posted by Lewis C View Post
Hi Paddy,
My only point was to correct a statement about the central focus of this web site. I wasn't saying that it's wrong for this site to have a JFK thread, or even more than one such thread. ...
Again, thank you,
Paddy
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Originally posted by Paddy Goose View Post
Thank you Lewis for your reply. Please accept my apology because after reviewing that section of the thread I see now I clearly took you out of context. You were actually replying to another poster who said the lone gunman theory is central to this website.
Again, thank you,
Paddy
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Originally posted by c.d. View PostMost people don't want to talk about the same thing all the time; variety keeps things interesting.
cough, cough...JFK thread..cough, cough...Lechmere thread...cough, cough, the Diary thread.
c.d.Well that at least is three things. Then there has also recently been discussion of William Bury, the Stride murder, the Eddowes murder, and other things. There are a few posters who seem primarily interested in one thing, but I think that most do not.
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Originally posted by Patrick Differ View PostHerlock we appreciate your passion. The single bullet however was debunked in 1963 by Connallys attending personal physician who was an expert in gunshot wounds. The proof was in the bullet hole location of Kennedys shirt and Connallys jacket bullet hole and entrance wound. There was no Yaw or tumbling in the bullet that hit Connally. It was proven to be a seperate bullet. The bullet that hit Connally also tunneled as it exited his check. Unlike the supposed single bullet theory which was never proven because Humes ( in the interest of haste?) decided not to trace the Kennedy entrance wounds. Believe whatever you want but the actual evidence gives another story.
I know which side I'm on PD .
The single bullet theory is just malarkey.'It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is. It doesn't matter how smart you are . If it doesn't agree with experiment, its wrong'' . Richard Feynman
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Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post
From people who were there on the day v the warren commission months later.
I know which side I'm on PD
The majority of witnesses believed the shots came from the Book Depository.
"The full picture always needs to be given. When this does not happen, we are left to make decisions on insufficient information." - Christer Holmgren
"Unfortunately, when one becomes obsessed by a theory, truth and logic rarely matter." - Steven Blomer
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Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post
From people who were there on the day v the warren commission months later.
I know which side I'm on PD .
The single bullet theory is just malarkey.
The second is Connallys interview lying in bed at Parkland after being shot . He expained what happened and never deviated. He said it happened in seconds so keep that in mind. He said he heard the first shot, thought it was a firecracker and turned on his elbow to see Kennedy hit " and then" he was hit. Said he fell back and heard the shot that hit Kennedy in the head and lost consciousness upon seeing the secret service agent on top of the Kennedys.
So there was no tumbling bullet out of Kennedy but then Humes never traced the throat wound. After what Connally said matches the Zapruder film. Who would know better than him?
People believe what they want but evidence actually shows more than one shooter.
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The autopsy and the Warren Commission didn’t. The investigation was completed September of 1964 but sadly the double-murdering, traitor scum Lee Harvey Oswald avoided justice and has now become a posthumous hero for some who are on some kind of warped mission.Regards
Herlock Sholmes
”I think that Herlock is a genius.” Trevor Marriott
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Originally posted by Patrick Differ View PostThere are 2 things People shoukd look at. The bullet holes in JFKs shirt and the bullet hole in Conallys Jacket.
The clothing supports the single bullet theory.
"The full picture always needs to be given. When this does not happen, we are left to make decisions on insufficient information." - Christer Holmgren
"Unfortunately, when one becomes obsessed by a theory, truth and logic rarely matter." - Steven Blomer
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Originally posted by Fiver View Post
The bullet hole in the back of JFK's clothing shows what is called "bullet wipe", which means it was an entrance wound. The bullet hole in the back of Connally's clothing show that the bullet was tumbling before it struck him, meaning it had already passed through another object.
The clothing supports the single bullet theory.
People can believe what they want but I think Connally, the victim, would actually know. Unlike Specter who had to make his bullet theory work. Its unfortunate Humes never traced the bullet wounds in Kennedys throat or back.
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but sadly the double-murdering, traitor scum Lee Harvey Oswald avoided justice
There is no convincing evidence that LHO killed once, never mind twice. So he is not a double murderer in legal terms. Anything else is malicious conjecture.
In addition, LHO did not choose to avoid justice: that decision was made on his behalf by person sympathetic to HS'
argument. Search the files and see if HS has ever called Jack Ruby the same names he calls LHO. He hates Oswald with a vengeance; but he does nor hate Jack Ruby. Jack was his man. HS is proud, it seems to me, that Ruby denied Oswald the right to justice.
I am happy to stand corrected.
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Ruby was just mentally unbalanced. He ranted about Jews being killed in the street saying that he could hear their screams. LHO deliberately murdered two men. The evidence for this is overwhelming. Yes CT’s can use creative writing to try and say that everything was faked but it just rings hollow. A cop out. LHO defected to the Soviet Union so I’m just stating a fact. He told them that he would give information. He was therefore by definition a traitor. He attempted to kill Walker then he killed Kennedy and Tippit. There isn’t even a scintilla of doubt about this. He was 100% guilty. Without a shadow of a doubt. To some a hero…to me, a lowlife murderer.
People are quite free to disagree. But they are wrong. 60 years of wasted time and effort. No evidence of a conspiracy. Just comedy theories. Time for the world to let it go. Oswald…guilty. Sirhan…guilty. James Earl Ray….guilty. Too much time wasted on these people when all that they deserve is contempt.Regards
Herlock Sholmes
”I think that Herlock is a genius.” Trevor Marriott
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Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View PostThe autopsy and the Warren Commission didn’t. The investigation was completed September of 1964 but sadly the double-murdering, traitor scum Lee Harvey Oswald avoided justice and has now become a posthumous hero for some who are on some kind of warped mission.
… but sadly the double-murdering, traitor scum Lee Harvled ey Oswald avoided justice and has now become a posthumous hero for some who are on some kind of warped mission.
I am not sure that dying in public qualifies as “avoiding justice”
The starting point for many in my generation is the killing of Oswald on TV.
I had seen lots of TV deaths, Cowboys and Indians, Nazis and Japs.
I had never seen a real person die. It was a shock on many levels.
My primary takeaway was that Oswald was the “Indian” in this show, as he was surrounded by Cowboys. It wasn’t a killing, it was a televised murder.
As a youth, my initial response was sympathy for the ambushed victim. I assumed Oswald was innocent. A patsy, as he proclaimed.
I have found FBI malfeasance as the agency conceals & camouflages evidence & CIA malfeasance as the agency deflects, cloaks & obstructs evidence & Warren Commission malfeasance as it glosses over uncomfortable facts and whitewashes unfriendly witnesses.
I have never claimed Oswald was innocent in the assasination of JFK. He is no hero.
I don’t believe I have ever seen this “hero” word used to describe
My idea of a hero is John Whitten. (SCELSO)
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