Vincent Alias Jack

[Abby Normal]

Why do you need a kick start?

One assumes no publisher is interested in the theory, at least not enough to publish it. Is that correct?

It is cheap and easy to self publish these days. Why are you not doing that as I aim to do?


Yours IN all seriousness

STEVE

Hi el
What are you writing a book on?

[Herlock Sholmes]

And if a glaring problem, like dead dogs or travel, are pointed out I’m sure Steve will either concede them or present reasonable arguments.

And I’m actually looking forward to Steve’s

Me too GUT. I’ll expect a signed copy though

[GUT]

The difference being Steve that your book will be based on research, the weighing up of evidence, consideration of events that actually happened and a sense of balance. Oh and yes I almost forgot.....it won’t have a suspect that wasn’t even in the country at the time

And if a glaring problem, like dead dogs or travel, are pointed out I’m sure Steve will either concede them or present reasonable arguments.

And I’m actually looking forward to Steve’s

[GUT]

Why do you need a kick start?

One assumes no publisher is interested in the theory, at least not enough to publish it. Is that correct?

It is cheap and easy to self publish these days. Why are you not doing that as I aim to do?


Yours IN all seriousness

STEVE

In his previous threads (2014??) he told us all about his search for a publisher and agent, kept telling us he had one or was on the brink of signing a contract, now, 4 years down the track, same old, same old.

[Herlock Sholmes]

I think a book on this subject would at least put Vincent as a suspect to bed once and for all. Once the book has been seen and critiqued then the matter will be settled for all to see. If people want to pay toward the Kickstarter campaign then that's up to them really.

I do agree that this should have been marketed as theory to test rather than a 'case closed - crime solved' book again!

[Herlock Sholmes]

Why do you need a kick start?

One assumes no publisher is interested in the theory, at least not enough to publish it. Is that correct?

It is cheap and easy to self publish these days. Why are you not doing that as I aim to do?


Yours IN all seriousness

STEVE

The difference being Steve that your book will be based on research, the weighing up of evidence, consideration of events that actually happened and a sense of balance. Oh and yes I almost forgot.....it won’t have a suspect that wasn’t even in the country at the time

[richardh]

I think a book on this subject would at least put Vincent as a suspect to bed once and for all. Once the book has been seen and critiqued then the matter will be settled for all to see. If people want to pay toward the Kickstarter campaign then that's up to them really.

I do agree that this should have been marketed as theory to test rather than a 'case closed - crime solved' book again!

[Elamarna]

Why do you need a kick start?

One assumes no publisher is interested in the theory, at least not enough to publish it. Is that correct?

It is cheap and easy to self publish these days. Why are you not doing that as I aim to do?


Yours IN all seriousness

STEVE

[Herlock Sholmes]

You’ve proven time and time again you are with those who walk in darkness and hold tight to the philosophy of hate as your joy. The haters, the preventers, those who stand in the way of new discoveries, new technologies, medicines, and the solving of cases. The self-important, high-minded sort, who are self-consumed with their knowledge of things, lacking understanding, transfixed with the way things have always been, unable to recognize the new thing, the truth of something, the reality. Always lashing out, always seeking to destroy, to defeat, while promoting themselves as the truth keepers. False prophets, Sadducees and Pharisees and scribes, so far gone away from truth they couldn’t even see the Son of God standing before them. Depart from me and examine yourselves. I walk in the light.

I’ll quote my post #66 in the pub talk thread:

“Let me guess what your reply will be along the lines of (if you respond of course as you glaringly avoid debate like the plague)......let me see...

The stuffy so-called experts are so wedded to their dogmas that they are unwilling to consider any original, out-of-the-box thinking. People with vested interests in maintaining the status quo will never appreciate maverick, original thinkers like me etc, etc, blah, blah, blah”

Has anyone heard this stuff before?”


Your post above is the new low watermark in arrogant lunacy. “I walk in the light!” “The philosophy of hate as your joy!” As John McEnroe used to say “you cannot be serious!”

When you come up with a ‘theory’ and follow it up with a ‘book’ you should expect and accept criticism. You should debate and discuss it and not come up with the drivel that I’ve quoted. It’s the typical mantra of the conspiracy theorist.

I don’t believe for a second that you believe in this ‘theory.’ All you can see is the potential for $$$. No one with even a passing interest in The Ripper Murders or Van Gogh could take this seriously. No one.

There is not a scintilla of evidence that Van Gogh left France during the murders.

Vincent was penniless and utterly reliant on money sent from his brother Theo to eat. There’s absolutely no way that he could have afforded a trip to England let alone travelling back and forward as we know that he would have had to do because of his letters.

It’s feeble in the extreme to site other murders that occurred to Vincent as proof that he was a serial killer. You may find the requirement for evidence tiresome but this is the way intelligent people investigate things. Oh....and he was in France at the time of course.

You even try to blame Vincent for his father’s death even though he died of a stroke.

How can anyone try to sustain this ‘dead dog at a murder scene,’ lie. Because lie is just what it is. A delusional fantasy.

You’ve even tried to use the fact that he once stood in front of Gauguin with a razor as evidence of his violence! Unbelievable!

There is no evidence that Vincent was violent to women.

Then there’s those ridulous attempts at seeing images in the paint. No one else can see these Dale. That should tell you something. Like the fact that they’re not there!

You quite staggeringly claim that Vincent became a serial killer because he wanted to create a new kind of art!!!!!!!!! I’ve heard quite a few motives for Jack’s killing spree but this one takes the HobNob. A joke. Nothing but a joke!

I’ve just noticed that you’ve solved the Torso Murders too! I’m sure that there were one or two hundred other murders that you could have attributed to Vincent if you had tried hard enough.

No one, not one single person with any knowledge of these crimes will give your theory a seconds credence. Not because of the self-pitying drivel of your post but because there is not a shred of evidence. But you know that dont you Dale. It’s just a pity that you can’t be sued for defamation of character.

[DirectorDave]

Seriously, stop wasting your time on this and go out and find a cute chick to take your mind off things.

It's the best advice you shall get today and save much pain in the long run.

[Abby Normal]

Dale,

I have to say that I have been your one lone "defender" thus far, and as I have said, not because I believe your theory, but because you have the right to it, and I will read it too be fair, and will then debate it, if I see fit, however, you must realize that the dead dogs thing is a bit out there, as GUT has said, there were no dead dogs left at the scene (or any of them)..you may be best served to leave that part out...that is where you will lose all credibility....the travel from France to London...it never hurt Druitt or Eddie as a suspect to the general public (not the "Ripper Community" but that is a whole other thing).

Also a word of advise, it is probably better to market it as " Is it possible Vincent is the Ripper?" and not as " Vincent is the Ripper: case closed"... that is the fastest way to turn off anyone who may even consider reading it and to get the attacks against you..but again, that is just my advice...

Again, I would be willing to bet anything in Vegas against your theory, but good luck with your project...but again be prepared to have it torn apart piece by piece, that is what's done to any and all theory's..be ready to be able to back up all claims and debate them with people who really know their stuff!!

Steadmund Brand

stead
somethings deserved to be ridiculed.

weve had some real nut cases on here over the years but this guy probably takes the cake!

[Steadmund Brand]

Dale,

I have to say that I have been your one lone "defender" thus far, and as I have said, not because I believe your theory, but because you have the right to it, and I will read it too be fair, and will then debate it, if I see fit, however, you must realize that the dead dogs thing is a bit out there, as GUT has said, there were no dead dogs left at the scene (or any of them)..you may be best served to leave that part out...that is where you will lose all credibility....the travel from France to London...it never hurt Druitt or Eddie as a suspect to the general public (not the "Ripper Community" but that is a whole other thing).

Also a word of advise, it is probably better to market it as " Is it possible Vincent is the Ripper?" and not as " Vincent is the Ripper: case closed"... that is the fastest way to turn off anyone who may even consider reading it and to get the attacks against you..but again, that is just my advice...

Again, I would be willing to bet anything in Vegas against your theory, but good luck with your project...but again be prepared to have it torn apart piece by piece, that is what's done to any and all theory's..be ready to be able to back up all claims and debate them with people who really know their stuff!!

Steadmund Brand

[Vincent alias Jack]

Lacking understanding??

Like not understanding

One man can’t be in France and London at the same time????

That no dead dogs were reported at any murder site???

That no one else can see the “hints” in his paintings???

That this thread will end up in pub talk with all the ther threads you’ve started to defame a great artist.

That you have not read the book and seek to destroy it because you believe you know the truth without seeing the truth. You haven't got a clue.

[GUT]

You’ve proven time and time again you are with those who walk in darkness and hold tight to the philosophy of hate as your joy. The haters, the preventers, those who stand in the way of new discoveries, new technologies, medicines, and the solving of cases. The self-important, high-minded sort, who are self-consumed with their knowledge of things, lacking understanding, transfixed with the way things have always been, unable to recognize the new thing, the truth of something, the reality. Always lashing out, always seeking to destroy, to defeat, while promoting themselves as the truth keepers. False prophets, Sadducees and Pharisees and scribes, so far gone away from truth they couldn’t even see the Son of God standing before them. Depart from me and examine yourselves. I walk in the light.

Lacking understanding??

Like not understanding

One man can’t be in France and London at the same time????

That no dead dogs were reported at any murder site???

That no one else can see the “hints” in his paintings???

That this thread will end up in pub talk with all the ther threads you’ve started to defame a great artist.

[Vincent alias Jack]

Including ignoring evidence he was in France on many of the key dates.

But hey why bother about evidence.

You’ve proven time and time again you are with those who walk in darkness and hold tight to the philosophy of hate as your joy. The haters, the preventers, those who stand in the way of new discoveries, new technologies, medicines, and the solving of cases. The self-important, high-minded sort, who are self-consumed with their knowledge of things, lacking understanding, transfixed with the way things have always been, unable to recognize the new thing, the truth of something, the reality. Always lashing out, always seeking to destroy, to defeat, while promoting themselves as the truth keepers. False prophets, Sadducees and Pharisees and scribes, so far gone away from truth they couldn’t even see the Son of God standing before them. Depart from me and examine yourselves. I walk in the light.