Vincent Alias Jack

[Jon Guy]

Yes Jon,
But didn't he say exactly the same before. And there was no book.
If he was ready to publish it would be ok. We could read the work or not, I would and then comment. But it looks like the latest effort is unlikely to work and the work is no nearer publication..


Anyway best to leave it, if he publishes it we can debate seriously.


Steve

Hi Steve

Understood.
I had to say something as I felt a bit uncomfortable about the stick he was getting. He wasn`t replying and I do worry about the people behind the keyboard. Just one person saying steady chaps may make a difference.
We are British after all !!

[Elamarna]

C`mon guys !!
The man has a project he`s completed and promoting. He`s not hanging around the boards spoiling for a fight.

Yes Jon,
But didn't he say exactly the same before. And there was no book.
If he was ready to publish it would be ok. We could read the work or not, I would and then comment. But it looks like the latest effort is unlikely to work and the work is no nearer publication..


Anyway best to leave it, if he publishes it we can debate seriously.


Steve

[Jon Guy]

C`mon guys !!
The man has a project he`s completed and promoting. He`s not hanging around the boards spoiling for a fight.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Not unknown Herlock. It's because he sees dead dogs in the paintings, hence there must have been dead dogs in the room of Kelly, despite not only NO EVIDENCE FOR SUCH A SUGGESTION. But loads of evidence AGAINST it.


Still I see no answer as to why he wants to use kick start or similar to fund the production of this? Is it so that The Author takes no finiacal risk?
As I said before he can self publish and if he goes by ebook, there may be no costs, depending on how he does it. Or if for instance he self published physical book on Amazon. He basically only pays when a copy is sold, it's printed on demand..

I see from the website the the funding is to cover copyright permissions, that sounds like a lot of paintings considering the likely sales. Ripper books don't sell big unless you are Ms Cornwell, with a massive fan base to start with.
A figure of 10000 was quoted earlier, was this correct because I now see it is less than 6000 asked for and less than 400 raised, don't look like this will happen unless a big hitter comes along.




Steve

Was that a typo Steve?

You’ve put ‘big hitter’ when I think that you meant to type ‘big idiot.’

[Elamarna]

Nope. Dale just made this up for some unknown reason

Not unknown Herlock. It's because he sees dead dogs in the paintings, hence there must have been dead dogs in the room of Kelly, despite not only NO EVIDENCE FOR SUCH A SUGGESTION. But loads of evidence AGAINST it.


Still I see no answer as to why he wants to use kick start or similar to fund the production of this? Is it so that The Author takes no finiacal risk?
As I said before he can self publish and if he goes by ebook, there may be no costs, depending on how he does it. Or if for instance he self published physical book on Amazon. He basically only pays when a copy is sold, it's printed on demand..

I see from the website the the funding is to cover copyright permissions, that sounds like a lot of paintings considering the likely sales. Ripper books don't sell big unless you are Ms Cornwell, with a massive fan base to start with.
A figure of 10000 was quoted earlier, was this correct because I now see it is less than 6000 asked for and less than 400 raised, don't look like this will happen unless a big hitter comes along.




Steve

[Herlock Sholmes]

Erm,... Dead dogs? Anyone care to shine a light on this? Two dogs dead dogs in Mary's room? Have I missed something?

Nope. Dale just made this up for some unknown reason

[GUT]

Finally found one thing in common with Dale, the same breed of dog.

[GUT]

Erm,... Dead dogs? Anyone care to shine a light on this? Two dogs dead dogs in Mary's room? Have I missed something?

Dale seems to be the only one who has ever heard about it.

[richardh]

Erm,... Dead dogs? Anyone care to shine a light on this? Two dogs dead dogs in Mary's room? Have I missed something?

[Abby Normal]

Well I can't say what the worst theory has been... I do say Vincent is close to the top of that list, but I'll still give it a read so it can be debated... I like to see both sides before arguing, but I think Joseph Merrick was a worse suspect...even worse then Maybrick (who in my opinion is also a horrible suspect... and I have debated that publicly so no need to do it again)... but .......

hmmmm maybe Vincent snuck to London... broke Merrick out of the hospital, then they hitched a ride with Maybrick... went to pick up Sickert (more so Vincent could borrow paints than anything else)...picked up a hitchhiking Druitt who they mistook for Prince Eddie and one of them said.. you know what we should do... let's kill us some unfortunates...and they did....but only because they were under the spell of a 13 year old Aleister Crowley....who told them.. it's ok if we get buckled my friend (14 year old) Harry Houdini can bust us out......CASE CLOSED

Steadmund Brand

lol. too logical

[Steadmund Brand]

Well I can't say what the worst theory has been... I do say Vincent is close to the top of that list, but I'll still give it a read so it can be debated... I like to see both sides before arguing, but I think Joseph Merrick was a worse suspect...even worse then Maybrick (who in my opinion is also a horrible suspect... and I have debated that publicly so no need to do it again)... but .......

hmmmm maybe Vincent snuck to London... broke Merrick out of the hospital, then they hitched a ride with Maybrick... went to pick up Sickert (more so Vincent could borrow paints than anything else)...picked up a hitchhiking Druitt who they mistook for Prince Eddie and one of them said.. you know what we should do... let's kill us some unfortunates...and they did....but only because they were under the spell of a 13 year old Aleister Crowley....who told them.. it's ok if we get buckled my friend (14 year old) Harry Houdini can bust us out......CASE CLOSED

Steadmund Brand

[John Wheat]

When Van Gogh and the Maybrick Diary are dominating the message board you know Ripperology is on its ass!

Are you sure it's not just that there are a lot of idiots on the message boards and in general Harry?

[Herlock Sholmes]

Dale has an explanation for that, something about getting others to post them for him, I think, see that wouldn’t have put Vincent’s neck in a noose, would it?

At least he hasn’t gone down the doppelgänger route (a la Cream)

So Vincent wrote letters about things that were happening or were about to happen, in advance, and got someone (even though he was a loner as Dale pointed out in his first post) to post them.

If you try hard enough you can stretch anything in an attempt to make facts fit a fantasy.

I haven’t a clue where to look (I’ve just tried) but I wonder how much it would have cost to get from Arles to London in 1888?

[GUT]

GUT how many alleged Ripper letters can you recall that were postmarked ‘Arles, France?

Dale has an explanation for that, something about getting others to post them for him, I think, see that wouldn’t have put Vincent’s neck in a noose, would it?

[MrBarnett]

If only he or Ed Stow would, one could have a really good debate.


STEVE

Hi Steve,

I bump into Ed occasionally and I believe he is still working on his Lechmere book.

Gary