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  • Originally posted by Tom_Wescott View Post

    The Star account was written by the police for the purpose of drawing PM and BSM out. It was intentionally misleading. The biographical details about Schwartz may be accurate, though.

    Yours truly,

    Tom Wescott
    Is this based on any factual information, or entirely on speculation?

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    • Originally posted by New Waterloo View Post
      What do the four men physically closest to Stride have in common?

      They are unidentified.

      i know the case is riddled with coincidences but it does seem a bit odd that we know nothing of them. Yes the four may have been three with overcoat man being pipeman.

      It is suggested that the police spoke to pipeman but if he was Browns overcoat man surely this would be a major development and would have been released to the press to stop speculation etc

      what if the 3/4 unknowns were working together and Schwartz stumbled onto something. Maybe ridiculous but worth mentioning I think.

      NW
      There are 3 other men claimed to have been seen with Stride. We could call them Pub Man, Marshall's Man, and Grapes Man. All of them are unidentified too.

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      • Yes fair point Lewis C. I suppose I am trying to be inventive without with what we have. The 3/4 I mention are within a very short physical distance from Stride within the last 15 minutes or less of her being killed. Browns overcoat man, Parcelman, Bs man and Pipeman are all within striking distance shortly before she is killed. They are in the very street where she was. Maybe I am just confusing things. They all disappear after the disturbance but Parcelman disappeared a little earlier. It really is a muddle
        NW

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        • There seem to be a lot of instances in this case where there are characters we don't know much about. Sometimes folks draw conclusions about little being known about Israel Schwartz, for example. To me it seems so common that we don't know much about someone that it shouldn't be surprising, and we can't conclude much from our lack of knowledge about someone.

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