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  • Originally posted by Debra A View Post
    Does a certificate in ear piercing not count then?
    Good to hear you're not an illegal, back-street ear-piercer. That's who Kate Eddowes went to see, and look how badly that turned out...

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    • Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post
      But you have to think out of the box sometimes
      Okay. The torso were all women kidnapped by aliens, brought up to their craft, killed in experiments gone wrong then discarded. There are millions of people who will swear that alien abductions occur on a regular basis.
      Prove that wrong.
      ,,`,, Debs ,,`,,

      I am not DJA. He's called Dave.

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      • Liz Stride was choking on one of her cachous, and a passing broad shouldered Good Samaritan attempted an amateur tracheotomy?

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        • Originally posted by Debra A View Post
          Does a certificate in ear piercing not count then?
          HaHa! Now that's funny.
          "Is all that we see or seem
          but a dream within a dream?"

          -Edgar Allan Poe


          "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
          quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

          -Frederick G. Abberline

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          • Maybe Jackson was kidnapped by a poor medical student, poisoned, and had her fetus removed for scientific use or profit by her abductor, who also disposed of the remains in a bizarre manner.
            Pat D. https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...rt/reading.gif
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            Von Konigswald: Jack the Ripper plays shuffleboard. -- Happy Birthday, Wanda June by Kurt Vonnegut, c.1970.
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            • Originally posted by Joshua Rogan View Post
              The abdomen was cut down the centre but the foetus removed from the uterus by a cut through the left wall. Doesn't that suggest that the uterus was no longer in the abdomen, or the flaps of skin had already been removed?
              That might be a meaningful question.

              Regards, Pierre

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              • Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post
                The last para supports what I said

                www.trevormarriott.co.uk
                No, Trevor - nothing much supports what you say at all.

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                • Originally posted by Debra A View Post
                  Does a certificate in ear piercing not count then?
                  To me? Yes. But will Trevor lend you an ear...?

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                  • Originally posted by Fisherman View Post
                    .... and what do we want to know about them?
                    OK, the post I am referring to is your #269 where you wrote:

                    "Its absolutely mindboggling how these matters have not been accepted as pointing to a shared identity of the killers. Both women also had their abdomens opened up from ribcage to pubes, and both women had their abdominal walls cut away in large flaps that were subsequently discarded.

                    To think that two different men got the self same ideas into their heads, and performed the mutilations in the self same way! Truly amazing!

                    And to think that the person who opened Jackson up from breastbone to pubes , cut away her abdominal wall in flaps, cut the uterus out together with part of the bladder just like in the Chapman case, only to subsequently bundle it all up together with the placenta and part of the maternal chord and launch it on the Thames, was an abortionist who had the bad luck of having Jackson die at his house!

                    I would never have guessed that in a million years!!!"

                    And the statements I was wondering about was:

                    Both women also had their abdomens opened up from ribcage to pubes, and both women had their abdominal walls cut away in large flaps that were subsequently discarded.

                    And to think that the person who opened Jackson up from breastbone to pubes , cut away her abdominal wall in flaps, cut the uterus out together with part of the bladder just like in the Chapman case...


                    Maybe you regard all this as some sort of common knowledge (I dont know), but what are the actual sources you are using here?

                    Kind regards, Pierre

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                    • Originally posted by Joshua Rogan View Post
                      The abdomen was cut down the centre but the foetus removed from the uterus by a cut through the left wall. Doesn't that suggest that the uterus was no longer in the abdomen, or the flaps of skin had already been removed?
                      I just read something that said the axis of the uterus is directed forward and is rotated slightly to the right, so the left side is nearer to the front of the pelvis. I suppose that could mean the left side of the uterus would be accessible through a centre opening of the abdomen?
                      ,,`,, Debs ,,`,,

                      I am not DJA. He's called Dave.

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                      • Originally posted by Debra A View Post
                        Okay. The torso were all women kidnapped by aliens, brought up to their craft, killed in experiments gone wrong then discarded. There are millions of people who will swear that alien abductions occur on a regular basis.
                        Prove that wrong.
                        If there are aliens abducting people here on earth I wish they would abduct you and some of the others on here, and implant some logic and common sense devices.

                        www.trevormarriott.co.uk

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                        • I feel this thread has become rather derailed and has become a debate about wether The Torso Victims were murdered and dismembered or the absurd notion that they were abortions gone wrong. The first post of the thread was about wether anyone had any suspects for The Torso Murders? I suggest anyone with the misguided idea that The Torso Victims were abortions gone wrong start a new thread. Rather than attempting to highjack this thread.

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                          • Back to THE TORSO MURDERS. How were the Torso victims murdered?

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                            • Originally posted by John Wheat View Post
                              I feel this thread has become rather derailed and has become a debate about wether The Torso Victims were murdered and dismembered or the absurd notion that they were abortions gone wrong. The first post of the thread was about wether anyone had any suspects for The Torso Murders? I suggest anyone with the misguided idea that The Torso Victims were abortions gone wrong start a new thread. Rather than attempting to highjack this thread.
                              Hi John
                              Well since it seems that the 70s and 80s cases are by the same killer, then I think older suspects bode well. And of course since the ripper and torso cases are probably by the same hand IMHO then older ripper suspects and ripper suspects who were in London in the 1870s.


                              So let me ask you-was bury in London in the 1870s and how old was he?
                              "Is all that we see or seem
                              but a dream within a dream?"

                              -Edgar Allan Poe


                              "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                              quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                              -Frederick G. Abberline

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                              • Just to follow up. I wonder what other favored ripper suspects would be viable for the 1870s torso cases. I know it bodes well for lech because he was in London at the time and is one of the older suspects.

                                What year was the first 1870 torso case?
                                "Is all that we see or seem
                                but a dream within a dream?"

                                -Edgar Allan Poe


                                "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                                quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                                -Frederick G. Abberline

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