Mary Jane was murdered between 09.00 and 10.30 am

[Abby Normal]

I don't recall the article and maybe I'm way off base, but could you be remembering a thread started by 'Pierre'?

Let there be light! - Casebook: Jack the Ripper Forums

hey rj
no i remember reading it on his website, but i cant find it now. or maybe its an article he did for the mag, but he dosnt put those on his website. ill shoot him a note and see if he will send.

[Abby Normal]

Hi Gary,

My daughter regularly breakfasts on leftover take-aways from the night before, whether it's fish and chips, kebab, Chinese, pizza or Indian. Helps with a hangover too.

Throwing up after a 'large' evening often provides instant relief from a hangover and can leave the sufferer starving hungry.

I'm torn between Blotchy providing their fish and potato supper, which they tucked into on the way back to her room, or the killer treating MJK to a hangover cure for her last breakfast.

If the killer bought the food, that would explain why nobody reported selling it to Mary, either in the evening or the following morning.

Love,

Caz
X

she got it with blotchy

[c.d.]

hey rj
no i remember reading it on his website, but i cant find it now. or maybe its an article he did for the mag, but he dosnt put those on his website. ill shoot him a note and see if he will send.

I thought "Pierre" was a woman.

c.d.

[Abby Normal]

I thought "Pierre" was a woman.

c.d.

pierre is a woman. im talking about an article by lord orsam, aka david barat, a dude.

[Abby Normal]

deleted. wrong thread

[Abby Normal]

hey rj
no i remember reading it on his website, but i cant find it now. or maybe its an article he did for the mag, but he dosnt put those on his website. ill shoot him a note and see if he will send.

hey rj
i was wrong. heard from lord orsam and it was a post. but started by his lordship and not pierre, titled Morris Lewis Revisited.

https://forum.casebook.org/forum/ripper-discussions/witnesses/9916-morris-lewis-revisited

fascinating thread and quite the page turner!!!

[Marie Jeanette Davies]

Maxwell was said to be about 5ft 5in tall, as reported in the Morning Advertiser, Standard & Scotsman.

So, being shorter than Mary, she couldn't have described her as short.

[Joshua Rogan]

So, being shorter than Mary, she couldn't have described her as short.

Did Maxwell actually describe Mary as short? Or dark?

[Wickerman]

Did Maxwell actually describe Mary as short? Or dark?

Not at the inquest she didn't, if she did it must have been in a press interview.

Not in a press interview either.
Maxwell described the man Kelly was with, outside the Britannia that morning as short.

[Abby Normal]

another tour de force post by Lord Orsam, this one focusing on Morris Lewis

Morris Lewis and the reporting of his story - Casebook: Jack the Ripper Forums

[etenguy]

another tour de force post by Lord Orsam, this one focusing on Morris Lewis

Morris Lewis and the reporting of his story - Casebook: Jack the Ripper Forums

Thanks Abby - an amazingly comprehensive and interesting account of how the story took shape and how that helps our understanding of what information was provided, by whom and when.

[Abby Normal]

Thanks Abby - an amazingly comprehensive and interesting account of how the story took shape and how that helps our understanding of what information was provided, by whom and when.

thanks eten but its all lord Orsam . tis a fascinating thread though

[rjpalmer]

Did Maxwell actually describe Mary as short? Or dark?

Not explicitly, but Maxwell is quoted as saying that Mary Jane was a 'pleasant little woman,' which is somewhat odd, since she also called her 'rather stout.' Taken together, some have argued that this shows Maxwell had described Mary as short and sturdy.




Still, it's a figure of speech, so that may be reading too much into it. Is it a deal breaker?

[rjpalmer]

hey rj
i was wrong. heard from lord orsam and it was a post. but started by his lordship and not pierre, titled Morris Lewis Revisited.

https://forum.casebook.org/forum/ripper-discussions/witnesses/9916-morris-lewis-revisited

Ah, there it is. Merci beaucoup.

[Wickerman]

Not explicitly, but Maxwell is quoted as saying that Mary Jane was a 'pleasant little woman,' which is somewhat odd, since she also called her 'rather stout.' Taken together, some have argued that this shows Maxwell had described Mary as short and sturdy.




Still, it's a figure of speech, so that may be reading too much into it. Is it a deal breaker?

It maybe for some - it was Morris Lewis who described Kelly as "short". This was captured in the Lloyds Weekly News of 11th Nov.
"She was short, stout & dark, and stood about 5ft 3in"