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  • Originally posted by rjpalmer View Post


    I don't recall the article and maybe I'm way off base, but could you be remembering a thread started by 'Pierre'?

    Let there be light! - Casebook: Jack the Ripper Forums
    hey rj
    no i remember reading it on his website, but i cant find it now. or maybe its an article he did for the mag, but he dosnt put those on his website. ill shoot him a note and see if he will send.
    "Is all that we see or seem
    but a dream within a dream?"

    -Edgar Allan Poe


    "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
    quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

    -Frederick G. Abberline

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    • Originally posted by caz View Post

      Hi Gary,

      My daughter regularly breakfasts on leftover take-aways from the night before, whether it's fish and chips, kebab, Chinese, pizza or Indian. Helps with a hangover too.

      Throwing up after a 'large' evening often provides instant relief from a hangover and can leave the sufferer starving hungry.

      I'm torn between Blotchy providing their fish and potato supper, which they tucked into on the way back to her room, or the killer treating MJK to a hangover cure for her last breakfast.

      If the killer bought the food, that would explain why nobody reported selling it to Mary, either in the evening or the following morning.

      Love,

      Caz
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      she got it with blotchy
      "Is all that we see or seem
      but a dream within a dream?"

      -Edgar Allan Poe


      "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
      quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

      -Frederick G. Abberline

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      • Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post

        hey rj
        no i remember reading it on his website, but i cant find it now. or maybe its an article he did for the mag, but he dosnt put those on his website. ill shoot him a note and see if he will send.
        I thought "Pierre" was a woman.

        c.d.

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        • Originally posted by c.d. View Post

          I thought "Pierre" was a woman.

          c.d.
          pierre is a woman. im talking about an article by lord orsam, aka david barat, a dude.
          "Is all that we see or seem
          but a dream within a dream?"

          -Edgar Allan Poe


          "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
          quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

          -Frederick G. Abberline

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          • deleted. wrong thread
            "Is all that we see or seem
            but a dream within a dream?"

            -Edgar Allan Poe


            "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
            quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

            -Frederick G. Abberline

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            • Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post

              hey rj
              no i remember reading it on his website, but i cant find it now. or maybe its an article he did for the mag, but he dosnt put those on his website. ill shoot him a note and see if he will send.
              hey rj
              i was wrong. heard from lord orsam and it was a post. but started by his lordship and not pierre, titled Morris Lewis Revisited.

              https://forum.casebook.org/forum/rip...ewis-revisited

              fascinating thread and quite the page turner!!!
              Last edited by Abby Normal; 05-19-2021, 11:22 PM.
              "Is all that we see or seem
              but a dream within a dream?"

              -Edgar Allan Poe


              "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
              quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

              -Frederick G. Abberline

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              • Originally posted by Wickerman View Post

                Maxwell was said to be about 5ft 5in tall, as reported in the Morning Advertiser, Standard & Scotsman.
                So, being shorter than Mary, she couldn't have described her as short.
                "So while life does remain, in memoriam I'll retain this small violet I plucked from Mother's grave."

                Stefania Elisabetta
                Animal mama and music fan.

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                • Originally posted by Marie Jeanette Davies View Post

                  So, being shorter than Mary, she couldn't have described her as short.
                  Did Maxwell actually describe Mary as short? Or dark?

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                  • Originally posted by Joshua Rogan View Post

                    Did Maxwell actually describe Mary as short? Or dark?
                    Not at the inquest she didn't, if she did it must have been in a press interview.

                    Not in a press interview either.
                    Maxwell described the man Kelly was with, outside the Britannia that morning as short.
                    Last edited by Wickerman; 05-20-2021, 08:03 PM.
                    Regards, Jon S.

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                    • another tour de force post by Lord Orsam, this one focusing on Morris Lewis

                      Morris Lewis and the reporting of his story - Casebook: Jack the Ripper Forums
                      "Is all that we see or seem
                      but a dream within a dream?"

                      -Edgar Allan Poe


                      "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                      quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                      -Frederick G. Abberline

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                      • Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
                        another tour de force post by Lord Orsam, this one focusing on Morris Lewis

                        Morris Lewis and the reporting of his story - Casebook: Jack the Ripper Forums
                        Thanks Abby - an amazingly comprehensive and interesting account of how the story took shape and how that helps our understanding of what information was provided, by whom and when.

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                        • Originally posted by etenguy View Post

                          Thanks Abby - an amazingly comprehensive and interesting account of how the story took shape and how that helps our understanding of what information was provided, by whom and when.
                          thanks eten but its all lord Orsam . tis a fascinating thread though
                          "Is all that we see or seem
                          but a dream within a dream?"

                          -Edgar Allan Poe


                          "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                          quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                          -Frederick G. Abberline

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                          • Originally posted by Joshua Rogan View Post

                            Did Maxwell actually describe Mary as short? Or dark?
                            Not explicitly, but Maxwell is quoted as saying that Mary Jane was a 'pleasant little woman,' which is somewhat odd, since she also called her 'rather stout.' Taken together, some have argued that this shows Maxwell had described Mary as short and sturdy.

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                            Still, it's a figure of speech, so that may be reading too much into it. Is it a deal breaker?

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                            • Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post

                              hey rj
                              i was wrong. heard from lord orsam and it was a post. but started by his lordship and not pierre, titled Morris Lewis Revisited.

                              https://forum.casebook.org/forum/rip...ewis-revisited
                              Ah, there it is. Merci beaucoup.

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                              • Originally posted by rjpalmer View Post

                                Not explicitly, but Maxwell is quoted as saying that Mary Jane was a 'pleasant little woman,' which is somewhat odd, since she also called her 'rather stout.' Taken together, some have argued that this shows Maxwell had described Mary as short and sturdy.

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                                Still, it's a figure of speech, so that may be reading too much into it. Is it a deal breaker?
                                It maybe for some - it was Morris Lewis who described Kelly as "short". This was captured in the Lloyds Weekly News of 11th Nov.
                                "She was short, stout & dark, and stood about 5ft 3in"
                                Regards, Jon S.

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