Limerick, the Key?

[lynn cates]

funeral attendance

Hello Jon. The former.

Cheers.
LC

[Bridewell]

I Missed It

Ditto Michael Kelly. What do we want? He's got the right surname, in the right regiment and his mother is still living in Ireland. ?

Hi Debs,

I've obviously missed something here. Can you enlighten me?

Regards, Bridewell.

[Debra A]

So is the Henry Johnston lead completely dead now? If so, I honestly can't recall why.

Ditto Michael Kelly. What do we want? He's got the right surname, in the right regiment and his mother is still living in Ireland. ?

[Bridewell]

So is the Henry Johnston lead completely dead now? If so, I honestly can't recall why.

Nor can I, but a Kelly lead which goes nowhere is par for the course.

Regards, Bridewell.

[Scott Nelson]

So is the Henry Johnston lead completely dead now? If so, I honestly can't recall why.

[caz]

Hello Jon. Thanks.

"It is difficult, I think, to accept that not one of her family appeared at her funeral."

I would call it shocking. And yet . . .

Perhaps some day a reasonable explanation will be found. I have seen none to date.

Cheers.
LC

You mean it's unreasonable to suggest that Mary Kelly was an alias, and that consequently no relatives realised who she was?

I'm confused.

Love,

Caz
X

[Wickerman]

Perhaps some day a reasonable explanation will be found. I have seen none to date.

Cheers.
LC

Ah, but a "reasonable explanation" for none being in attendance, or a "reasonable explanation" for none being noticed?

Regards, Jon S.

[lynn cates]

shocking

Hello Jon. Thanks.

"It is difficult, I think, to accept that not one of her family appeared at her funeral."

I would call it shocking. And yet . . .

Perhaps some day a reasonable explanation will be found. I have seen none to date.

Cheers.
LC

[Wickerman]

Well Lynn, thats as far as I'm going down that road seeing as this is all conjecture. So long as the "visible" absence of the family can be accounted for by reasonable means.

There was a "small crowd of people" permitted inside the closed cemetery gates, but remained some distance from the grave.
The mass of onlookers were kept outside the gates.

It is difficult, I think, to accept that not one of her family appeared at her funeral, but I can easily imagine a lone? representative (or small group, 2-3?) keeping a respectable distance, but again thats conjecture.

Regards, Jon S.

[lynn cates]

anonymity

Hello Jon. I'll meet you half way. SOMEONE requested anonymity.

Cheers.
LC

[Wickerman]

Hello Debs. Yes. But since they seem not to have . . .

Cheers.
LC

It was claimed that her family was reasonably well-to-do, presumably by East end standards?
Is it possible the police located them but they requested anonymity?

Regards, Jon S.

[lynn cates]

story

Hello Debs. Yes. But since they seem not to have . . .

Cheers.
LC

[Debra A]

Thanks for the reply Caz, I agree, great post, particularly the last line. Which is something similar to what I've been trying to say all along.

Dave, I will post those welsh SG's soon, promise. I haven't done any further work on any of them apart from list the Scots Guards born in Wales but I will list those later on a separate thread so we can all have a crack at researching them and make it quicker.

Lynn, that's the thing isn't it. If the police found the family they had to be working from some part of Barnett's story and so we should be able to find them too, using information from that same story?

Curious, what you suggest is possible but I think the papers probably had so much information about the funeral and who was paying foro what that they got confused. They had the funeral as postponed twice when in fact it wasn't twice, only once.

[Wickerman]

Hello Jon. Indeed. But, as we all know, "the residents of the East End were too poor to afford them."

Hence the need for a beau to buy them for Stride, or for Kelly to cadge the price off the next sucker who comes along.
(Lynn, I was joking)


Curious.
"That sounds to me as though some one else "family and friends" came through."

That interpretation would be an interesting turn of events.
If they were ashamed of her "wayward life" they may have kept a low profile with respect to the press.

Regards, Jon S.

[Cogidubnus]

Debs

I know how busy you must be, but am wondering whether you ever got the chance to check out the possible Welsh-born "Johntos" on those regimental rolls, or whether events since have conspired against? Just thought it might open (or close) one or two doors!

Is there any way I can help?

Dave