What Direction Was Polly Travelling When She Was Killed?

[Batman]

Why would someone be dumping their bodies around Whitechapel?

Why dump in Mitre Square?

Why take MJK's body back to her room?

Why dump a body in a backyard of Hanbury St?

How do you move a body with the head nearly severed and eviscerated and keep it all together?

Why pose them after dumping them?

Why take some of their organs, sometimes?

What I usually find with these lines of thinking is that the conspiracy becomes so complex that it makes no sense why the conspirators would do it at all when there are lots of alternatives less complex and not as risky.

[Simon Wood]

Hi Packers,

Nice. Neatly observed.

Regards,

Simon

[packers stem]

Hi RJ,


I will, however, be pursuing the possible use of Mr. James Brown's Stable Yard as a conduit for getting a hurriedly-dressed corpse from one place to another without unduly alerting the local citizenry. All that business about Nichols being murdered where she was found is a load of old horsefeathers.

Regards,

Simon

Hi Simon
I totally agree
Liz Stride alone was killed where found .
May explain Phillips' surprise at how much blood there was around .
'Oh , how am I going to explain the Hanbury Street 6 dots now' presumably crossed his mind after a pound of clotted blood was found in Dutfields yard

[Simon Wood]

Hi RJ,

James Monro's grandson, Christopher, was the source of this particular red herring. He related the 'hot potato' story which, by his own account, originated in unseen documents whose very existence is uncertain.

So, Mr. Chief Constable, rest assured I will not be wasting any time on that. I don't want you coming down on me like a ton of bricks.

I will, however, be pursuing the possible use of Mr. James Brown's Stable Yard as a conduit for getting a hurriedly-dressed corpse from one place to another without unduly alerting the local citizenry. All that business about Nichols being murdered where she was found is a load of old horsefeathers.

Regards,

Simon

[DJA]

James Monro heavily implied there was a scandal associated with the Whitechahpel Murders. A scandal so dire he would not even mention it to his wife. Kosminski need not apply.

This is, and must always be, the starting point out of any serious inquiry. Best wishes. RJ Palmer

What did James Monro,Henry Smith and RL Stevenson all have in common?

As pointed out several times,Henry Smith was the model for Inspector Newcomen. So named for an obvious reason.

Sir Danvers Carew MP was based on someone who died from a chloral hydrate overdose in June 1885.

[rjpalmer]

James Brown, Son and Blomfield, renowned brick makers, who owned and occupied Essex Wharf, and for whom Walter Purkiss worked

Hi Simon. As always, I admire your tenacity. But if I was the Chief Constable, and you were one of my Chief Inspectors, and you were studying the sale of a ton of bricks next to one of the murder sites, I would kindly ask you to get your backside back to work.

James Monro heavily implied there was a scandal associated with the Whitechahpel Murders. A scandal so dire he would not even mention it to his wife. Kosminski need not apply.

This is, and must always be, the starting point out of any serious inquiry. Best wishes. RJ Palmer

[DJA]

https://wiki.casebook.org/index.php/Essex_Wharf

Blomfield was James Brown's son in law.

[Simon Wood]

As no address other than Bucks Row was given on the auction notice [The Times, 29 December 1888] I am now tending toward the idea that the auction of bricks and other building materials was held on the opposite side of Bucks Row at the premises of James Brown, Son and Blomfield, renowned brick makers, who owned and occupied Essex Wharf, and for whom Walter Purkiss worked.

This is the same James Brown who owned the stable yard in front of whose gates Polly Nichols was found.

[MrBarnett]

Hi MrBarnett,

Most enlightening.

Thank you.

Regards,

Simon

It was a question, Simon.

Here's another: why would an East End yard containing valuable building materials have been left unlocked? The bell alone would have been worth a few bob.

[Simon Wood]

Hi MrBarnett,

Most enlightening.

Thank you.

Regards,

Simon

[MrBarnett]

It appears that the gates to Brown's Stable Yard were closed but not locked.

PC Neil: Inquest—"The gateway was closed. It was about nine or ten feet high, and led to some stables."

[I have not yet found an instance of PC Neil saying the gates were locked].

Emma Green: Inquest—"A constable went into the yard with my son, and they returned with a broom, and washed the stains away." [Evening Standard 18th September 1888].

If the gates were locked, who unlocked them?

No one, because it was Mrs Green's yard they got the broom from?

[Simon Wood]

It appears that the gates to Brown's Stable Yard were closed but not locked.

PC Neil: Inquest—"The gateway was closed. It was about nine or ten feet high, and led to some stables."

[I have not yet found an instance of PC Neil saying the gates were locked].

Emma Green: Inquest—"A constable went into the yard with my son, and they returned with a broom, and washed the stains away." [Evening Standard 18th September 1888].

If the gates were locked, who unlocked them?

[DJA]

Why wouldn't that surprise you?

Pretty much a clear run from the rear of the WLI through 46 to the Essex Wharf.

Don't know where the Turret clock came from though.

Princess Louise was the mystery donor towards the WLI.

[Simon Wood]

Why wouldn't that surprise you?

[DJA]

No, indeed. To me the maps suggest two separate premises. And I ask myself, if you have a main entrance on Bucks Row, why do you need a back door in Winthrop Street?

Wouldn't surprise me if the Brown's were still attempting to sell the materials, salvaged from the site where the Working Lads Institute was built several years earlier, from Essex Wharf rather than Winthrop Street.