Dutfield's Yard Video

[richardh]

Thanks Cogidubnus
this is exactly what I want. Some feedback. I agree entirely. The floor of the yard has been a bit of an after-thought AND a bit problematic. I'll be working on that aspect for sure.

Also, the vid should now play. I set it to 'private' by mistake.

Hi Richard

I've tried the link but Youtube rejects my attempts stating that your video is "private"...maybe this is just a UK thing? Anybody?

On the "stills" you've published, your revised entrance width is a huge improvement and better represents, I'm sure, the confined nature of the crime scene...however, I would have to query the surface which has been applied to the floor of the yard...

At times this has been questioned by many persons...Stewart and other authoritative commentators have described it in 1888, if I can paraphrase them, as muddy with the occasional stone, (but also with either a path or paved gutter up the right hand side to the doorway)...I'm sure they'll forgive me if I inadvertently misrepresent them, but I think the cobbled surface you portray is that following extensive improvements carried out subsequent to 1888...

All the best

Dave

[Cogidubnus]

Hi Richard

I've tried the link but Youtube rejects my attempts stating that your video is "private"...maybe this is just a UK thing? Anybody?

On the "stills" you've published, your revised entrance width is a huge improvement and better represents, I'm sure, the confined nature of the crime scene...however, I would have to query the surface which has been applied to the floor of the yard...

At times this has been questioned by many persons...Stewart and other authoritative commentators have described it in 1888, if I can paraphrase them, as muddy with the occasional stone, (but also with either a path or paved gutter up the right hand side to the doorway)...I'm sure they'll forgive me if I inadvertently misrepresent them, but I think the cobbled surface you portray is that following extensive improvements carried out subsequent to 1888...

All the best

Dave

[richardh]

Thanks GUT
I thought I'd set the video as 'unlisted' because I only wanted to show it to casebook.org folk. It was, however, set to private. Sorry. it should work now.

[GUT]

G'day Richard

The screenshots look good and can't see anything glaringly wrong.

But You-tube comes up with something like the Video is Private.

[richardh]

Some V2 Screenshots for discussion and opinion please:










thanks

V2 Video Link

[richardh]

Well, here is another raw youtube vid of Dutfield's Yard (V2).

The vid is not very high quality, but jittery etc. but I need feedback so far on the layout of the yard now that I've got it all laid out. There are all sorts of things wrong with it but it's NOT the finished version.

Please tell me what's wrong/right and what should/shouldn't be included etc.

YouTube link

thank you

[GUT]

But come to think of it you would expect the fire maps to show the pumps,

[GUT]

Thanks GUT,
I agree, for a location involved in industry there would certainly be a need for a pump close by. The Goad maps don't show these things do they?

One map for Miller's Court included the pump, but I don't think it was Goad.

[richardh]

Thanks GUT,
I agree, for a location involved in industry there would certainly be a need for a pump close by. The Goad maps don't show these things do they?

[GUT]

Question: Was there a water pump in Dutfield's Yard please?

thanks

G'day Richard

pretty sure I read about one somewhere I'll try and find it. More to the point can't imagine such a yard without one.

[richardh]

Question: Was there a water pump in Dutfield's Yard please?

thanks

[richardh]

Righto,
All offending images have been removed and/or replaced.

Apology again for infringement.

R

This is my first and only post here for four years.

I would like to state that, whilst Richard's work is admirable, I have had NO communication from him requesting use of my image. I was only recently alerted to the 2013 posting of the image by Richard elsewhere. As soon as I saw it, I sent a report post and it was immediately removed by the admins. I have also reported this copyright infringement (the image was restored by me in 2009) and PM'd Richard after a user was kind enough to contact me this morning.

This is nothing to do with financial remuneration (believe me, the money I have received from Amberley Publishings total abortion of a publication, not like the one I sent for publication in quality or layout, would lay testament to that) but I have the right as the one who discovered it, bought it, owns it and has done all the research, to have total control over its use and to be aware of where and when it is used.

PHILIP

[richardh]

I've PM'ed you Phil with an apology. I'll remove the offending images and hope you accept my apology for infringement. I sent you an email communication from this site using the link 'email this member'. I didn't use the 'PM this member'.

I'll get rid of the images now.

Sorry again.

regards

Richard

[George Hutchinson]

This is my first and only post here for four years.

I would like to state that, whilst Richard's work is admirable, I have had NO communication from him requesting use of my image. I was only recently alerted to the 2013 posting of the image by Richard elsewhere. As soon as I saw it, I sent a report post and it was immediately removed by the admins. I have also reported this copyright infringement (the image was restored by me in 2009) and PM'd Richard after a user was kind enough to contact me this morning.

This is nothing to do with financial remuneration (believe me, the money I have received from Amberley Publishings total abortion of a publication, not like the one I sent for publication in quality or layout, would lay testament to that) but I have the right as the one who discovered it, bought it, owns it and has done all the research, to have total control over its use and to be aware of where and when it is used.

PHILIP

[richardh]

Thanks GUT for the reply. It's a bit of a mystery. I think I might leave that part (the 'ledge') out of my model as there's no way I can reconcile something being across the door like that. It's not overly important so I'll just let if fade from view when I fade out the iron gates and fade in the wooden gates that were there in 1888.

I'm close to finishing V2 of Dutfield's Yard. I'm not 100% satisfied with the result but I'll stick it on Youtube in few days for feedback. My aim was for some sort of photo-realism but I've failed miserably because I'm not of the calibre of the professionals like Jaakko Luukane. But I'll keep working at improving.

thanks
R

G'day Richard

I'll throw out two possibilities:

1. It is a Bar across the door used to secure the door, and that's my first shot. The bar being about 4'6" off the ground, slightly higher than where many of the modern push bars are today.

2. Are we sure it is the door in a former life I delivered kegs of beer to pubs and clubs, a lot of the old establishments, pre-refrigeration had a cellar and this was accessed via a door about 4 foot high that opened to a slide down which the kegs were rolled, whilst attached to a rope. The problem with this theory is that I cannot work out where the door is.