Dutfield's Yard Video

[richardh]

Okay, I'll get on to that tonight. Thanks for the feedback. So, basically she's lying on her left side in a 'loose' foetal postion with right hand across chest. I have the right hand across her belly at the moment. That left arm, is that okay to be sort of reaching out or should it be tucked in?

thanks
R

[GUT]

G'day Richard

think what Fisherman says is pretty close to the mark, you need, in my opinion, to bring her knees up and move the right arm to across her chest.

[Fisherman]

There are a few things, Ricardh!

Her right arm was resting on her chest and in front of her.

Her body was resting upon her upper left arm.

Her knees were drawn up "as in pain".

The axis of her body was in an oblique angle to the wall.

PC Lamb said that she gave the impression of having been gently laid down, so you are looking for a position in which you´d be likely to find a sleeping person.

I wrote a dissertation on all of this years ago. I still think that has got the body position correct. It´s in the dissertations department here on Casebook:

http://www.casebook.org/dissertations/dst-fisherman2.html

Your work is a joy to see!

All the best,
Fisherman

[richardh]

UPDATE:

Been working at the model again. Just thought I'd share these screenshots of the victim position so you can advice on position/location etc. She's a naked model but she's been covered.... with a bit of material found near the yard!



Click this link for a larger image.

R

[GUT]

G'day Richard.

The tables are in what, I consider to be, the logical spot doesn't mean they're right just if I was laying out the yard where I'd put them, Goad refers to I seem to recall, disused stables, so maybe there were differing locations over time.

[richardh]

Thank you for the fantastic comments and feedback. Thanks Admin also for your post.

I'm pleased with the result of Dutfield's Yard although I'm still not yet satisfied and feel there is lots to add and lots to change. I'm going to keep working on it onver the next few weeks to get it better.

Noone has yet mentioned the water pump, the three 1st floor windows round the back of the workingman's club or the posibility that I've got the stables in the wrong place. The stables I've placed on the far right of the Yard but I've read that the 'disused' stables were in the building marked as 'Forge' on the goad's plans. I could do with some advice on that.

Lights: I note in Phil Hutchison's Dutfield's Yard photo (DY1) there is a gas lamp affixed to the wall of a cottage on the left. Was this the only light? (I think it was).

@Geister the render (the video) was actually in full colour but I thought it looked crap! so chose to desaturate it. I think that when the model is truly finished I will create a couple of contrasting videos - B/W, Colour and the all important night shot.

By the way, the shadows you see in the video (actual shadows not Hank Marvin) are the correct shadow-casts for 11:30 on June 22nd 1900 as I was trying to copy the shadowing in DY1

@GUT The steps have no rail because again I was copying DY1

@Cogidubnus Re: the yard cobbles - Yes those cobbles will have to go!

Thanks again for the encouragement.
V3 coming soon!

[Geister]

Stunning work. Is it possible to render in colour or even provide a night version? No rush. Just curious as I love these.

[Admin]

Just wanted to say what amazing work this video is and how illustrative. Really well done and thanks for sharing this with everyone. It is very appreciated.

[GUT]

Other than those very minor points, all I can say is stop showing off.

[GUT]

On 2nd look the grate at 0.50 might be low enough.

No hand rail on the stairs?

[GUT]

The doors on the left at 1.20 may need another step, only because as it is that grate seems higher than the floor and if so would thus open into the room.

[GUT]

G'day Richard

I'll post as I come to them.

At about 0.50 you have a grate in the wall, I always thought that it was in the ground, providing light access to the basement, but I may well be wrong.

[Dr. John Watson]

Richard, I just want to echo what Simon said. Brilliant job. Either police or one of the doctors mentioned a gutter alongside the building where the body was. I think it was in connection with the flow of blood. I didn't notice any mistakes in your video, by the way.

John

[Simon Wood]

Hi Richard,

Your recreation of Dutfield's Yard is an astonishing piece of work.

Apart from its wealth of detail I liked its eeriness and sense of suspense. I was fully convinced someone was about to appear out of a doorway.

Well done. Absolutely first rate.

Regards,

Simon

[MrBarnett]

Hi Richard

I've tried the link but Youtube rejects my attempts stating that your video is "private"...maybe this is just a UK thing? Anybody?

On the "stills" you've published, your revised entrance width is a huge improvement and better represents, I'm sure, the confined nature of the crime scene...however, I would have to query the surface which has been applied to the floor of the yard...

At times this has been questioned by many persons...Stewart and other authoritative commentators have described it in 1888, if I can paraphrase them, as muddy with the occasional stone, (but also with either a path or paved gutter up the right hand side to the doorway)...I'm sure they'll forgive me if I inadvertently misrepresent them, but I think the cobbled surface you portray is that following extensive improvements carried out subsequent to 1888...

All the best

Dave

Hi Dave,

I've heard this before and never really understood how the gutter would have worked if the main part of the yard was bare earth. With frequent vehicular traffic the centre of the yard would have become rutted and rain would have settled there, not run to the margins to be drained away by the gutter.

MrB