Was Stride Really a JtR Victim?

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  • The Good Michael
    Assistant Commissioner
    • Feb 2008
    • 3773

    #76
    Originally posted by Phil H View Post
    I must admit Michael that you are braver than I.

    I would certainly not dare to make such an assertion on the grounds that you do. Having the testimony presented to the Coroner (when there is no supporting evidence that happened) would give what Schwartz said a wholly different standing. I think that would be misleading and unsustainable.

    Sorry to disagree.

    l
    Haha! Disagree all you want. That's what this stuff is all about. And to be honest, if the statement was presented to the coroner, I don't think it made a ton of difference to the answers of the questions: where did she die? and Was she murdered?

    Mike
    huh?

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    • Digalittledeeperwatson
      Sergeant
      • Oct 2012
      • 635

      #77
      Thanks Caz.

      I know how far the data by itself goes Phil. Exercises, exercises exercises. So where would you put your money? Instinct is important for an investigator.
      Valour pleases Crom.

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      • lynn cates
        Commisioner
        • Aug 2009
        • 13841

        #78
        standard form

        Hello Jon. Thanks.

        ""Squealed" - meaning, in this case, "to make a noise that drew attention.""

        Ah, standard form. Very well. But not loud?

        Cheers.
        LC

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        • lynn cates
          Commisioner
          • Aug 2009
          • 13841

          #79
          This coyness, Star, were no crime.

          Hello (again) Jon. Thanks.

          "If the Star concocted the story why send it to the Central News Agency and not their own offices?"

          Professor Cook covered this in his book. The two entities were bitter enemies. Send it to yourself--suspect whom? But send it to CNA . . .

          "Why is it not mentioned in the Star on the 2nd Oct, the day after it was received at the CNA?"

          "The Star" went out of their way to be coy and deny both "Jack" missives; however, they milked it for all it was worth.

          Cheers.
          LC

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          • lynn cates
            Commisioner
            • Aug 2009
            • 13841

            #80
            mending language

            Hello Caroline. Thanks.

            "Yet you can't get from three not very loud screams to a bit of squealing?"

            The problem for me is a "not loud scream". Something there is that doesn't love an oxymoron.

            Cheers.
            LC

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            • lynn cates
              Commisioner
              • Aug 2009
              • 13841

              #81
              Ich schlafe.

              Hello Michael.

              At my age, "bed" indicates only one operation.

              Cheers.
              LC

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              • Phil H
                Superintendent
                • Jul 2010
                • 2362

                #82
                Instinct is important for an investigator.

                So it maybe, but an historian uses evidence and there are certain quite simple but universally accepted standards for evaluating and using sources. I stick to those.

                Phil

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                • Digalittledeeperwatson
                  Sergeant
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 635

                  #83
                  Ha ha!

                  Originally posted by Phil H View Post
                  Instinct is important for an investigator.

                  So it maybe, but an historian uses evidence and there are certain quite simple but universally accepted standards for evaluating and using sources. I stick to those.

                  Phil
                  Precisely why I am interested. You can't blame a fella for trying can ya? Do you have a favourite colour?
                  Valour pleases Crom.

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                  • Wickerman
                    Commissioner
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 14895

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Jon Guy View Post

                    When Schwartz walked out of Leman Police station early on Sunday evening after giving his statement to the police.
                    I guess the Star had a reporter hanging around outside Leman St Police station following developments.
                    There's an account somewhere that mentions reporters hanging around inside the police station(s) waiting by the desk to pick up on conversations.
                    Regards, Jon S.

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                    • Jon Guy
                      Assistant Commissioner
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 3156

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
                      There's an account somewhere that mentions reporters hanging around inside the police station(s) waiting by the desk to pick up on conversations.
                      Thanks Jon.

                      I also remember another account where the newspaper is comparing the City Police with the Met with regard to helpfulness towards tthe press. The press were literally asking the Desk Sergeant for news.

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                      • Jon Guy
                        Assistant Commissioner
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 3156

                        #86
                        Hi Lynn

                        Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
                        Ah, standard form. Very well. But not loud?
                        Yes. It is possible to scream at different levels of volume, just as we can shout at various volume levels.

                        Imagine you`re directing Fay Wray arriving on Skull Island when one of the natives jumps out on her and you ask her to scream.
                        The next day you`re directing her again, this time it`s the scene where Kong appears for the first time and you ask her to SCREAM.

                        But, as has been mentioned in this thread, we`re reading a Hungarian translation, and not a short essay by Dickens.

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                        • The Good Michael
                          Assistant Commissioner
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 3773

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Jon Guy View Post
                          Yes. It is possible to scream at different levels of volume, just as we can shout at various volume levels.
                          Only because we all project differently. All screams will be loud just at different decibels...unless someone is choking you.

                          Mike
                          huh?

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                          • Jon Guy
                            Assistant Commissioner
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 3156

                            #88
                            Hi Lynn

                            Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
                            Professor Cook covered this in his book. The two entities were bitter enemies. Send it to yourself--suspect whom? But send it to CNA . . .
                            Which is Cook`s book?
                            Is it a reference book or a theory book?

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                            • Jon Guy
                              Assistant Commissioner
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 3156

                              #89
                              Originally posted by The Good Michael View Post
                              Only because we all project differently. All screams will be loud just at different decibels...unless someone is choking you.

                              Mike
                              Indeed Mike. My gut feeling is he was swinging around her by her scarf.

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                              • lynn cates
                                Commisioner
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 13841

                                #90
                                voluminous reply

                                Hello Jon. Thanks.

                                "Yes. It is possible to scream at different levels of volume, just as we can shout at various volume levels."

                                Quite. But ALL volumes for a scream are loud.

                                Cheers.
                                LC

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