Stride Bruising

[DVV]

if it was 'Jack' then he got out of there immediately after slitting Stride's throat.
DRoy

Hi Roy

... that is certainly what he did. Schwartz or Pipeman could bump into a constable and bring him back.
I believe he was already gone when Diemshutz arrived.

Cheers

[lynn cates]

assumption

Hello Jon. Thanks.

"You're assuming it was Jack?"

For the moment. If, however, it were some chap with a violent temper, what on earth would be the point of placing them between her fingers?

Cheers.
LC

[DVV]

I understand, Lynn.
But who ate her grapes ?

(I've changed my mind and believe in grapes.)

Cheers mon cher

[curious]

I understand, Lynn.
But who ate her grapes ?

(I've changed my mind and believe in grapes.)

Cheers mon cher

Since I'm a big waffler on the grapes, I'd like to hear what convinced you, please.

Thx,

curious

[Wickerman]

Hi Lynn.

Hello Jon. Thanks.

"You're assuming it was Jack?"

For the moment. If, however, it were some chap with a violent temper, what on earth would be the point of placing them between her fingers?

Cheers.
LC

I've no idea why people do the things they do. If "bad breath" was the message, stuffing the package in her mouth might have been more appropriate?

I wonder if she actually carried the packet up her sleeve (at her cuff), and the action of her falling to the round dislodged them into her hand?

[DVV]

Since I'm a big waffler on the grapes, I'd like to hear what convinced you, please.
curious

Hi Curious,

I'm trying to find a worse headache than cachous, that's why.

Beside, since these days people trust Mortimer more than Schwartz, it's fine to remind them that she had seen grapes.

Cheers

[Observer]

Thanks for that, Observer! Yes, there are a number of jolly people amongst the serial killer´s ranks - but it is not the norm, I´d say. And your example about Sutcliffe, though interesting, leads my thought more to an effort to obscure. What I am looking for is something different, a bit more explicite. Posting stuff to the police comes to mind, but Jack´s suggested placing of things and the torso killers distribution of body parts (among other places into the garden of a descendant of Mary Shelley´s...!) is taking it a step or two further.

All the best,
Fisherman

Hi Fisherman

Yes, obviously a medical student descendant of Doctor Frankenstein was guilty of depositing the body part in Mary Shelley's relative's garden. Seriously though, medical student pranks cross my mind when I think of the Torso "killers" crimes.

Regards

Observer

[lynn cates]

Huh?

Hello David. Thanks.

"(I've changed my mind and believe in grapes.)"

Pour quoi?

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

elementary

Hello Jon. Thanks.

"I wonder if she actually carried the packet up her sleeve (at her cuff), and the action of her falling to the round dislodged them into her hand?"

Well, actually it's worse than that. They were lodged between the thumb and forefinger (one report has thumb and fourth finger--but that makes no sense).

It's rather like taking a pinch of snuff. Now, if you are doing a forensics reconstruction and some toff is found dead with a pinch of snuff between thumb and forefinger, what may you induce? Put another way, reconstruct the scene, Watson. (heh-heh)

Cheers.
LC

[Cogidubnus]

Does this mean that Lynn's next reconstruction is going to be a Snuff Movie?

All the best

Dave

[lynn cates]

snuff

Hello Dave. Thanks.

Funny you should mention that. When I taught "Contemporary Moral Problems" at University, we covered pornography. When we discussed the snuff film, one girl asked, "What's a snuff film?" I replied as you may imagine.

But when I gave her the REAL definition her eyes got big and she asked, "Umm, isn't that, like, illegal?"

I had to assure her that murder has been banned in all fifty states and territories.

Cheers.
LC

[DRoy]

Hi Roy

... that is certainly what he did. Schwartz or Pipeman could bump into a constable and bring him back.
I believe he was already gone when Diemshutz arrived.

Cheers

Dave,

Agreed. There is not even a tiny piece of me that would believe the killer stuck around to 'set the stage'. He cut and ran.

Cheers
DRoy

[DRoy]

Hi Curious,

I'm trying to find a worse headache than cachous, that's why.

Beside, since these days people trust Mortimer more than Schwartz, it's fine to remind them that she had seen grapes.

Cheers

Dave,

Haha gotta love Mortimer! I'm not sure whether you are kidding or not about the grapes but I have changed my opinion and believe she had them. No, not just because Mortimer said so!

Cheers
DRoy

[Wickerman]

Hi Lynn.

Well, actually it's worse than that. They were lodged between the thumb and forefinger (one report has thumb and fourth finger--but that makes no sense).

I understand what was observed, but that was after she expired. Had her thumb & finger(s) closed up around the paper pkg?

I don't know Lynn, the whole question is innocuous yet at the same time hard to explain. I don't see solving the riddle will get us any nearer to identifying her killer, but thats just me.

[Paddy]

Finger and Thumb

I had a friend once that had some sort of nerve shock (it was said possibly from the neck) the result was that her fingers and thumbs clamped shut and she had great trouble using them after that.
Maybe this happened to Liz?

Pat....................