Stride Bruising

[lynn cates]

thanks

Hello Christer. I thought so.

And for that, I thank you VERY much.

Cheers.
LC

[Fisherman]

My pleasure, I´m sure, Lynn!

Fisherman

[Michael W Richards]

Hi again,

Just wanted to say hi to an old friend, Fisherman. Im not sure if you recognize my postings but its just me, perrymason, without an alias..or agenda.

Nice to see you are still at it my friend.

Cheers,
Mike R

[Fisherman]

Michael:

"Just wanted to say hi to an old friend, Fisherman"

Ah ... THAT Michael! No, I did not realize that, although I should have.

Long time no see! How have you been keeping?

The best,
Fisherman

[Fisherman]

I forgot the most important part: A warm welcome back to the boards, Michael!

The best,
Fisherman

[Michael W Richards]

I forgot the most important part: A warm welcome back to the boards, Michael!

The best,
Fisherman

Thank you my friend. Ive been studying some other things the past few years but never lost my curiosity for this subject. Ive been following along from the sidelines and am still impressed by the energy and enthusiasm you show.

Its nice to be able to converse again.

All the best amigo,

Mike R

[Garza]

Now what do you make of that chest bruise?

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

Her chest was pressed against the wall...

[Wickerman]

Her chest was pressed against the wall...

If the wall bruised her chest, how was she pressed against the wall without leaving pressure marks on her back?

Regards, Jon S.

[ukranianphil]

My first post.

According to the Inquest, Dr. Phillips said:
"i have come to the conclusion that the deceased was seized by the shoulders, PLACED on the ground, and the perpetrator was on her right side when he inflicted the cut"

I think out of fear, Liz bent down, and did not struggle. The cachous still being in her hand, is an indication of this.
If she knelt down voluntarily, then there would be no other bruises, and a minimum amount of force was used. she was placed on the ground.

I came to this conclusion because of
Dr.Blackwells remarks at the inquest.

"There were some pressure marks on the shoulders, these were not regular bruises, and there was NO abrasion of the skin".

It is partly this that i believe that Liz stride was NOT a ripper victim.
Phew. My first post.

[DRoy]

ukranianphil,

Welcome to the boards Phil!

Bold first post by the way. Saying Liz isn't a Ripper victim can be a scary thing yet you did it in your first post.

Cheers
DRoy

[ukranianphil]

ukranianphil,

Welcome to the boards Phil!

Bold first post by the way. Saying Liz isn't a Ripper victim can be a scary thing yet you did it in your first post.

Cheers
DRoy

many thanks for the welcome Droy.
I have been studying Liz stride for the past five years, and i have a working Theory and a "suspect", but a lot more research is required, hence my venture onto the boards.

[DRoy]

ukranianphil,

I wish you nothing but the best. I just ask that you please don't say it was Sickert or Van Gogh!

Cheers
DRoy

[ukranianphil]

ukranianphil,

I wish you nothing but the best. I just ask that you please don't say it was Sickert or Van Gogh!

Cheers
DRoy

Bugger!! back to the drawing board.

No my stride suspect was a local man, and knew the area well.
Never been put forward before, so a lot of research is required as i said.

[Wickerman]

Welcome Phil, from the Ukraine

My first post.

According to the Inquest, Dr. Phillips said:
"i have come to the conclusion that the deceased was seized by the shoulders, PLACED on the ground, and the perpetrator was on her right side when he inflicted the cut"

Even the Great Dr. Phillips can't always be correct.
We know that the left side of Stride's body was in contact with the ground from witnesses, and the physical evidence of this is that mud was found on her left side.
No mud was noted on her back, Phillips appears to have missed that, so no, on the strength of the missing mud, she was not placed down with her back to the floor.

It is partly this that i believe that Liz stride was NOT a ripper victim.
Phew. My first post.

I'm not convinced she was either, but I have withdrawn from previously feeling sure she wasn't to only not being convinced she was.
I'm firmly in the middle, and I still enjoy reading the opinions of both sides.

What might sway me is if we could establish that she had been strangled or choked first. This I believe was the true Ripper technique. I mean something more than a tight fitting scarf.

.

[lynn cates]

in the clench

Hello Phil. Welcome to the boards. Good first post.

Why do you think that Liz clenched her fingers on the cachous? A movement towards the neck?

Cheers.
LC