Liz Stride Re-Enactment

[Garza]

Why? Then she really WOULD spray all over the wall.

No if the left cartoid artery was pointed to the ground, which could only come about if she was lying on the ground, only in that scenario could their be no spray on the wall which is only a foot at most in front of her. This is regardless who killed her, Liz Stride was killed fully lying on the ground, the cut from left to right.

If they met at the street, and they walked into the yard, would not her body be reversed?

No, not at all. There are many scenarios where she would be facing the wall if walking from the street. Especially if she was looking for business.

[lynn cates]

back

Hello Maria.

"No, Lynn, she would have sprayed all over the ground."

On her back?

She would spray all over the wall and the assailant.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

F = G m1m2/r2, nahhh!

Hello Maria. If there was to be blood on the wall, given the neck is directly over the ground, it would have to make a fool out of Sir Isaac Newton.

Cheers.
LC

[mariab]

Lynn Cates wrote:
"Liz Stride would have to be flat on the ground when she was killed."
Why? Then she really WOULD spray all over the wall.
No, Lynn, she would have sprayed all over the ground.

[mariab]

Garza wrote:
I'm, just going to say in your scenario on youtube, it looks to me there would be some spray on wall. Maybe you have underestimated the spray of the carotid artery once cut, but its a mighty spray. Not sayin your scenario is wrong, but Liz Stride would have to be flat on the ground when she was killed.
That's precisely what I (and others) have been saying to Lynn in previous discussions on several Stride threads.

[lynn cates]

why

Hello Garza.

"Liz Stride would have to be flat on the ground when she was killed."

Why? Then she really WOULD spray all over the wall.

If they met at the street, and they walked into the yard, would not her body be reversed?

Cheers.
LC

[Garza]

Hello Garza. Who even suggested a club member? Why not a guest?

No, there would be no blood whatsoever on the wall.

Cheers.
LC

Ok, member/guest/whatever, not going to argue about that.

I'm, just going to say in your scenario on youtube, it looks to me there would be some spray on wall. Maybe you have underestimated the spray of the caratoid artery once cut, but its a mighty spray. Not sayin your scenario is wrong, but Liz Stride would have to be flat on the ground when she was killed.

Plus there is no suggestion whatsoever that the killer came from the club. You scenario could have happened from the street for example.

[mariab]

Garza wrote:
And BTW your scenario would still have blood on the wall, which was not found on the crime scene.
I totally agree about the blood on (the lower part of) the wall in this reenactment. Plus, the knife was a bit small, and definitely not sharp enough. (But probably better this way, Lynn, as you used your wife and not some hired stunts person. )

[lynn cates]

answer

Hello Garza. Who even suggested a club member? Why not a guest?

No, there would be no blood whatsoever on the wall.

Cheers.
LC

[Garza]

Unless you know why a member of the IWMC wants Liz Stride dead, then its just speculation I'm afraid. You don't have any reason why a member of IWMC would want a lowly hooker dead, or even a single member would want her dead.

And BTW your scenario would still have blood on the wall, which was not found on the crime scene.

Kudos to your wife btw for going through that btw .

[mariab]

All that talk about single malt made me pour a generous glass of Four Roses Kentucky bourbon. Yum... tastes great with some mexican chips I'm having. (I know, super healthy lifestyle...)

[lynn cates]

money

Hello Maurice. That was a rented building. Rent plus deposit--L200. Same for the camcorder. Now, you KNOW I must have been serious since people of my race are not keen on spending money.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

right

Hello Phil

"just as an afterthought, when someone is suddenly grabbed, the muscles tense up I believe, which means the gripping of the cachous and non release would be natural, in my opinion."

You are right, of course.

The talk of the single malt reminds me of the story of the Scots chieftain who sent his men on a raid. They returned with 100 bottles of Scotch and a loaf of bread. The chieftain eyes the catch and queries, "Well, noo, who d'ye think's goin' to eat all tha' bread?"

Cheers.
LC

[mariab]

To Phil Carter:
I thought Lalique was a glass (and jewellery) designer. Do they also make whiskey, or just the decanter? I happen to know about them for them being the sponsors of the Trophée Lalique, an important figure skating competition which takes place every November in Paris at the Bercy ice rink. Nowadays they have a different sponsor though, and they call it the Trophée Éric Bombard. Still, it's fascinating to go see the comp, see how the pros work their jumps, and afterwards we all gather at a cheap restaurant just behind the rink and one can totally interact and chat with the pros and the choreographers. (The coaches are more aloof, and I would never dare to approach them. I happen to train at that same ice rink early on Sunday mornings when in Paris, at least when I manage to get up before 7.00 and run to the métro on Sunday.)

[The Grave Maurice]

...I tend to favour the 1926....

OK, Phil, I'm going to get Santa to bring you a case. I just hope none of the bottles break when he drops it down your chimney.