September 30,1888- The night of Clues?

[Patrick Differ]

Agree with the thought that this killer would likely have serious upper body strength in order to render these women unconscious. Even in a state of deprivation a woman at 100 pounds for example, he seemingly handled these women easily in silence. I think this is an important perhaps overlooked factor in this case. It may be an indicator of profession. You might not expect a barber, tailor, or surgeon to have that kind of developed strength, but you might consider a dock worker, butcher or even mortuary assistant. Assuming the killer used his hands and not a garrot, this might even be more the case. It's not clear whether this killer used a wall as leverage but all but Kelly were found near a Wall.

[The Rookie Detective]

Agree with the thought that this killer would likely have serious upper body strength in order to render these women unconscious. Even in a state of deprivation a woman at 100 pounds for example, he seemingly handled these women easily in silence. I think this is an important perhaps overlooked factor in this case. It may be an indicator of profession. You might not expect a barber, tailor, or surgeon to have that kind of developed strength, but you might consider a dock worker, butcher or even mortuary assistant. Assuming the killer used his hands and not a garrot, this might even be more the case. It's not clear whether this killer used a wall as leverage but all but Kelly were found near a Wall.

Ah yes, but Kelly had her throat cut next to the partition wall; as evidenced by the blood splatter.

Kelly had her throat cut as she faced the wall as she was either lying or kneeling at the far side of the bed, and after her BP had dropped through blood loss, she was moved to the near side of the bed, placed in a position whereby the killer could commence post mortem mutilation and then before leaving, the killer displayed her in a manner to optimise the distress felt by whomever would discover her later on.

The ripper used his left hand to pull her head back and his right hand to reach around her her throat in a hooking motion and then cut her throat.

It's almost certain she was facing away from him at the time, and would suggest they were likely lying om the bed together in a spooning position just moments before the killer struck by lifting her head in a simultaneous upward and backward motion by gripping her hair with his left hand.

The question is; how did the killer manage to bring into the room such a formidable long-bladed weapon without her seeing it as he entered?

It means that the weapon was concealed in some way.

Perhaps by means of a customised walking stick concealing a blade, or a secret pocket within his coat that could hold a long thin blade.

[Tom_Wescott]

Rookie, you've twice now suggested that Stride was nearly decapitated. She was not. I'm aware of the single press mention attributed to Dr. Blackwell. I doubt Blackwell ever said this.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Abby Normal]

the circs that night point to stride probably not actively soliciting that night but looking for a new boyfriend. she recently split with kidney, she was dolled up, and she wasnt jumping into an alley with the first man she met. the man she did meet they hung out wandered around, he probably bought her drink and a flower. all tje while trying to get her to go to a secluded place.unfortunately for her it was the ripper. when she wouldnt go he lost his temper, attacked her (what schwartz saw) and cut her throat. he then bolted to find a more acquiescent victim which he shortly did with eddowes.