"I think I know him"

[Joshua Rogan]

The MP for Whitechapel, Mr Montagu, offered to pay a reward of £100 on 10th Sept....Presumably this is the reward on the poster outside Miller's Court?

According to the Illustrated Police News 17th Nov, it was their own reward the poster was offering;

"The most curious item in the entire surroundings is a large placard posted on the walls of the next house to one where the murder was committed offering, in the name of the ILLUSTRATED POLICE NEWS, a reward of POUNDS 100 for the discovery of the diabolical assassin"

[Michael W Richards]

3 Mitre Square.

Wife,son,two daughters.

He testified at the Inquest.

City policeman.

Thanks for that DJA. As I mentioned before he interests me.

[DJA]

3 Mitre Square.

Wife,son,two daughters.

He testified at the Inquest.

City policeman.

[Michael W Richards]

Hi Folks,

What room was Pearce in in the square? I recall that his bedroom window looked onto the spot where the murder occurred. Always thought that it was unusual that his family, who supposedly were there that night, were never interviewed. Not that I could find anyway. A wife and daughter I believe. He was among the officers, including Reid and a few others, that worked under Abberline directly during that time I seem to remember. It was that group that returned to Millers Court that next morning to re-sieve the ashes in Marys room.

[DJA]

For what it's worth, this pic appears to show shutters open on either side of the doors/windows.
http://photos.casebook.org/displayim...565&fullsize=1

Thanks mate.

Bit of a newspaper mock up.Much appreciated though.

If Jack was upstairs at number 6,the back gate was locked and he certainly wasn't answering the front door

As I've said before,it does answer the uncanny timing.
Also where the kidney,etc was left,thereby freeing up the half apron as a red herring.

If there were only windows,just would have been a smidge more difficult.

[Joshua Rogan]

I do see your point.

Now show me a picture of the rear of 6 Mitre Street.

Only kidding.

Checkout the door at 9 Mitre Street. Same.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/13/50...8f6c67d025.jpg

For what it's worth, this pic appears to show shutters open on either side of the doors/windows.

http://photos.casebook.org/displayimage.php?pid=565&fullsize=1

[Joshua Rogan]

#5 Mitre Street (the property with the door attached to the private yard) does have some importance in my opinion. It was the childhood residence of Franklin King. That property was in the name of David S. King (a builder), his father, until 1881. It was said to have been used to store lumber even in 1888. They also had a property on Goulston Street, a few doors down from where the apron was dropped, also a lease on a property in King Street which was nearby in St James Square and one in Castle Alley in which the body of Alice McKenzie was found exactly on their doorstep.

There's that lumbar connection again! Although presumably the police checked out the property, George Clapp and his wife (and her nurse) and found nothing suspicious.
Still, good stuff, old chap.

[DJA]

Same rounded top at #9, yes. But that door is outside the yard. Goads key shows windows "on all or most floors" for the back of numbers 6,7,8 and 9.

Like I said, being a private yard I would doubt there were doors leading into the yard from any of the other properties. I may be wrong though.

Appreciate your thoroughness.

The 1881 Census showed 6 Mitre Street to be occupied by a policeman's family.
The area was actually full of police.The Bull Inn was reputedly an upstairs "police pub" where Eddowes was arrested.
The landlord of a policeman had to be of very good character.Mandatory.
The fence protected the rear of all three properties,including 5 Mitre Street's timber shed which was gone in November 1888.

[jerryd]

#5 Mitre Street (the property with the door attached to the private yard) does have some importance in my opinion. It was the childhood residence of Franklin King. That property was in the name of David S. King (a builder), his father, until 1881. It was said to have been used to store lumber even in 1888. They also had a property on Goulston Street, a few doors down from where the apron was dropped, also a lease on a property in King Street which was nearby in St James Square and one in Castle Alley in which the body of Alice McKenzie was found exactly on their doorstep.

[jerryd]

I do see your point.

Now show me a picture of the rear of 6 Mitre Street.

Only kidding.

Checkout the door at 9 Mitre Street. Same.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/13/50...8f6c67d025.jpg

Same rounded top at #9, yes. But that door is outside the yard. Goads key shows windows "on all or most floors" for the back of numbers 6,7,8 and 9.

Like I said, being a private yard I would doubt there were doors leading into the yard from any of the other properties. I may be wrong though.

[DJA]

I do see your point.

Now show me a picture of the rear of 6 Mitre Street.

Only kidding.

Checkout the door at 9 Mitre Street. Same.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/13/50/eb/1350eb5956324e0cda38c38f6c67d025.jpg

[jerryd]

Looks like the top of a window in this picture, exactly like the one just outside the gate.

[DJA]

No

Doors into 5,6 and 7.

Actually the 1887 Croad Map does not show the overlooking window above the door of 9 Mitre Street,at the entrance to Mitre Square.

[jerryd]

They are doors.
Checked that out several years ago.Quadruple checked.
Absolutely no doubt.

Edit. The windows on the Croad maps of Mitre Square are "overlooking windows".

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/13/50...8f6c67d025.jpg

So no door into #6, right?

[DJA]

Dave,

It was a private yard belonging to #5 (Heydemann's yard). Are you sure the sketch isn't showing windows? Foster didn't include any doors into the yard other than the back door leading into #5. The gate was checked and found to be locked.

They are doors.
Checked that out several years ago.Quadruple checked.
Absolutely no doubt.

Edit. The windows on the Croad maps of Mitre Square are "overlooking windows".

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/13/50/eb/1350eb5956324e0cda38c38f6c67d025.jpg