"I think I know him"

[DJA]

Somebody quite recently suggested the first.

Never thought of the wash-tub

[Sam Flynn]

let alone someone waiting in the dark corner of Mitre Square for a random victim

I'm not aware that anyone believes that he did, anymore than they believe that he crouched in wait in the back yard of 29 Hanbury Street or hid in the wash-tub under Mary Kelly's bed.

[DJA]

I guess that's why the word blimey was made.

That's the way I feel about a broad shouldered cheese monger,a plumber with a military bearing who was unlikely to have been unemployed , let alone someone waiting in the dark corner of Mitre Square for a random victim

[Varqm]

I guess that's why the word blimey was made.

[DJA]

I am sure that this has been discussed before but I have always wondered where Kate, given her financial situation, got the money to get apparently stinking drunk. Could it have been Jack buying her drinks? And maybe she had made an appointment for later to hook up with him.

c.d.

Reckon Eddowes approached Jack for a blackmail handover that night with Stride and BS man ( a Royal Engineers sapper named Carter) at a mutually suitable venue.
She used a part prepayment, got inebriated and mucked up.
When released and unaware of Stride's murder she returned to Jack's bolthole for her share.
In explaining her absence and that she gave the police an alias,Jack was told of "nothing". Hence the GSG,a red herring to draw police away from his secondary residence backing into Mitre Square.
As Jack's arrangement was primarily with Eddowes,he might have been wary of BS man with Stride.
Carter was depending on the blackmail handover for payment and became "shirty" with Stride. He then left.
With only Stride to contend with,Jack approached with medication for her
hereditary hemorrhagic telangiectasia (bottom lip).

[Abby Normal]

I am sure that this has been discussed before but I have always wondered where Kate, given her financial situation, got the money to get apparently stinking drunk. Could it have been Jack buying her drinks? And maybe she had made an appointment for later to hook up with him.

c.d.

No. It was random bad luck.

[c.d.]

I am sure that this has been discussed before but I have always wondered where Kate, given her financial situation, got the money to get apparently stinking drunk. Could it have been Jack buying her drinks? And maybe she had made an appointment for later to hook up with him.

c.d.

[DJA]

Thanks Sam

[Sam Flynn]

My ex cardiologist hasn't got a clue and couldn't give a damn.

I genuinely hope for your sake that he doesn't track you down in 20 years' time and disembowel you in a darkened public square

[DJA]

True, but medicine advanced exponentially in the hundred years or more that intervened between Sutton, Gull and West.

Hopefully 25 years of research by Australian and Belgium professors is released this year.
You might be surprised how some medical knowledge hasn't advanced.
My ex cardiologist hasn't got a clue and couldn't give a damn.

[Sam Flynn]

True, but medicine advanced exponentially in the hundred years or more that intervened between Sutton, Gull and West.

[DJA]

Never mind Iain West - how on earth could the Ripper have known about Eddowes' sick kidney? Indeed, was Eddowes herself even aware that she had a kidney condition?

Just lost a lengthy reply,so I'll be quick this time.

I believe Nichols and Eddowes (as Conway) were his inpatients together over twenty years previous. Both had rheumatic fever.

Strep pyogenes often enters via the nose,infecting the maxillary sinuses,on their way to the heart.
Usually finishes up in the intestines.
Can infect pretty much any organs,kidneys,adrenal glands,etc.
Would make Eddowes a star long term patient.

After moving in August 1888,Nichols quickly finds herself living next to Eddowes.
Eddowes goes hopping.
Nichols and Chapman (who had TB) are murdered.
Eddowes returns to claim a reward.

Re Iain West,St. Guys produced many excellent researchers including Sir William Withey Gull, a Governor, and Henry Gawen Sutton.

[Sam Flynn]

You really don't get it,dancing around statements the way you do.

I'm not dancing around anything, and I "get" most things. What I don't get is an urge to read any spookiness into Eddowes' wounds... or those of any other victim's, for that matter.

If West was aware of all the facts,like Eddowes sick kidney,he would have seen significance in the marked nose and sinuses.

Never mind Iain West - how on earth could the Ripper have known about Eddowes' sick kidney? Indeed, was Eddowes herself even aware that she had a kidney condition?

[DJA]

You really don't get it,dancing around statements the way you do.

If West was aware of all the facts,like Eddowes sick kidney,he would have seen significance in the marked nose and sinuses.

[Sam Flynn]

The cuts to the face and the displacement of the clothing would have taken mere seconds.