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  • #16
    On Thursday 30th August 1888, the day before Polly Nichols' murder, a book began weekly serialization in the Pall Mall Budget. It ran over 10 weeks, with the final installment appearing on Thursday 8th November 1888, the day before the Millers Court murder.

    The book was "The Mystery of Cloomber" by Arthur Conan Doyle.

    It was illustrated in part by George Hutchinson, who went on to illustrate some of the Sherlock Holmes stories.

    A subliminal choice of name by Abberline for his fictional witness?
    Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
      On Thursday 30th August 1888, the day before Polly Nichols' murder, a book began weekly serialization in the Pall Mall Budget. It ran over 10 weeks, with the final installment appearing on Thursday 8th November 1888, the day before the Millers Court murder.

      The book was "The Mystery of Cloomber" by Arthur Conan Doyle.

      It was illustrated in part by George Hutchinson, who went on to illustrate some of the Sherlock Holmes stories.

      A subliminal choice of name by Abberline for his fictional witness?
      Could be. Or it could be as Freud said, "sometimes a cigar is just a cigar." I have to go with Freud on this one.

      c.d.

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      • #18
        Interesting to learn that Abberline's halo is firmly in place and shining brightly.
        Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by c.d. View Post

          Could be. Or it could be as Freud said, "sometimes a cigar is just a cigar." I have to go with Freud on this one.

          c.d.
          Or as Jung said to Freud "It might look like a phallic symbol to you,but do you know what it looks like to me ?"
          My name is Dave. You cannot reach me through Debs email account

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
            Interesting to learn that Abberline's halo is firmly in place and shining brightly.
            Hello Simon,

            This has nothing to do with Abberline's supposed head covering. It simply comes down to what is more likely.

            c.d.

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            • #21
              Hi c.d.,

              And what is more likely?

              Regards,

              Simon
              Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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              • #22
                Hi Richard,

                Originally posted by richardnunweek View Post
                Hi
                I have never doubted the identity of the witness Hutchinson., its no big deal, he was a man who simply reported what he saw, and when he saw it, no conspiracy. no motive, just a witness. Oh his name George William Topping Hutchinson. Father of Reg Hutchinson.
                Regards Richard..
                Totally agreed. Hutch told the truth and was a honest witness. (That's why he was ignored!)

                And correct me if I'm wrong anyone (Sam?), but I believe Sam Flynn agrees that GWTH is THE Hutchinson judging by the signature(s)?

                regards,

                Martyn

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by mpriestnall View Post
                  Hi Richard,



                  Totally agreed. Hutch told the truth and was a honest witness. (That's why he was ignored!)

                  And correct me if I'm wrong anyone (Sam?), but I believe Sam Flynn agrees that GWTH is THE Hutchinson judging by the signature(s)?

                  regards,

                  Martyn
                  Hello Martyn,

                  Why was he ignored if he was an honest witness? And how exactly was he ignored? Abberline assigned men to accompany him around Whitechapel looking for the Astrakhan man. That doesn't seem like he was ignored.

                  c.d.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
                    It was illustrated in part by George Hutchinson, who went on to illustrate some of the Sherlock Holmes stories.

                    A subliminal choice of name by Abberline for his fictional witness?
                    Would Abberline have known the illustrator "Geo H" was Hutchinson?

                    You have perhaps missed my question from earlier, and the question mark makes it uncertain if the above counts as an answer. Was Abberline in on GH being a fake witness or was he duped?

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                    • #25
                      Re Abby Normal post #13

                      Hi Abby somehow I dont think it is the same chap but I could be wrong, I got an impression that he maybe worked at dock labouring after but could be wrong. I just thought I might find all the GH's I can that have a connection and post them up. I would hope someone might see something I cant. Starting on another George soon. I might unintentionally be repeating old research of others, apologies if I am. ...

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                      • #26
                        Hi Kattrup,

                        I doubt Abberline was duped.

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                        Regards,

                        Simon
                        Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
                          Hi Kattrup,

                          I doubt Abberline was duped

                          Regards,

                          Simon
                          Great, thanks.
                          The illustration you posted is from study in scarlet, from 1891.
                          How did Abberline in 1888 know that Geo H was a Hutchinson?

                          If Abberline was not duped, why did he write a memo detailing his examination of GH?
                          Last edited by Kattrup; 05-12-2020, 08:36 PM.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
                            Hi Kattrup,

                            I doubt Abberline was duped.

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                            Regards,

                            Simon
                            Must have to do with that halo of his.

                            c.d.

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                            • #29
                              Sheffield Independent - Wednesday 14 November: Click image for larger version

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                              • #30
                                Interesting that the article says "accost."

                                c.d.

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