George William Topping Hutchinson Records

[Lechmere]

Here is Toppy’s father George Hutchinson in the 1851 census.
He is still living in Moulsham, in the parish of St John the Evangelist (the church was built in 1837)

George Hutchinson was living as a lodger, in a small lodging house. I am fairly sure the address is Writtle Lane.
He was now a plumber, aged 23. It specifies that he was born in Chelmsford in Essex.

It is interestingly that his mother Hannah Hutchinson is listed a few entries above, also on Writtle Lane, as a pauper aged 60. She is listed as having been born at Great Tey, which is near Colchester in Essex.

[Lechmere]

Back in chronological order:
Here is Toppy’s father George Hutchinson in the 1841 census.
The family lived in Moulsham which is a ‘suburb’ on the southern approach to Chelmsford in Essex.
They lived at Heatherley’s Passage.
The household consisted of
Hannah Hutchinson – a widow aged 45
John Hutchinson – a painter aged 20
George Hutchinson – a labourer aged 15
They were all born in Essex and clearly George and John were brothers and the sons of Hannah.
The father (i.e. Toppy's grandfather) was dead.

[Lechmere]

That's what someone else said.
I believe it was on A Nightmare on Elm Street 2: Freddy's Revenge .
I think I will find something else to do.

[Sally]

As I said, Lechmere. You can always go find out for yourself.

[Lechmere]

I think relatively few Lodging Houses were purpose built – but all things being equal you would expect a larger house to be so converted.
I think the existing building is ‘all modern’, not just the frontage – that seemed to be the case from what I could see anyway when I peered into the big windows and stairwell.
I haven’t studied, or gone looking for any detailed maps and plans for that area to confirm anything more.

[Sally]

69 Warren Street

Was built as a double fronted property along with several others on Warren Street. It was not a lodging house at that time, nor at any time other than briefly at the end of the 19th century, during which 'Toppy' resided there. It was refronted in the mid 20th century.

[Robert]

" Hutchinson can you lend me sixpence? I need to get down to the bookies."

[Lechmere]

And so on to Mile End Road, no. 576 of which thoroughfare Toppy had registered as his, and his good lady wife’s, under the brush address when he got married in May 1898
It is just two doors down from Mile End Tube Station, although this only opened in 1902.
I am slightly sceptical as to whether Toppy actually lived at this address, and if so for how long.
And what do you know – the original property isn’t there! It is a modernish building – now a Paddy Power betting shop (just like the Grave Maurice!) They are getting everywhere.

[Lechmere]

Tonight I was passing through central London and realised it would be a good opportunity to stop off and see if 69 Warren Street is still there (Toppy’s address in 1891).
I pulled in and it is an almost complete street of period property. Brilliant. I pulled in, jumped out and counted the numbers down...
The only building I could see that had been rebuilt was no 69. Typical! Virtually every single building I have ever tried to find has been demolished.
All that can really be determined is that the ‘footprint’ of 69 seems larger than its neighbours. Perhaps because it was a lodging house and the other houses were just houses. It was on the northern side of the street towards the Tottenham Court Road end.

[Malcolm X]

ok lets try again, annoying or what
i am bias towards Hutchinson, but i do have to say that the signatures look similar, but even his own signature looks different from page 2 to 3, because on page 2 he's left out the last G of George, plus no gap between george and hutchinson!

but Signature 3 seals it for me, that is a very close match, only varying slightly due to being nervous, yes i expect GH was probably a nervous wreck whilst writing his signatures

looking again at PAGE 2, that could also be from someone else i suppose, i dont know what went wrong there, but it doesn't really matter because page 3 is so similar to TOPPY below.

this doesn't weaken GH as JTR, just tells me that it was indeed him that was stalking and lurking outside Kelly's, strangely enough it makes him look more guilty!!

what weakens GH, is that he's a Joe Average family guy living in this area ( or close by) all his life, he aint no Chapman, Tumblety etc.

[The Good Michael]

lets compare the signature above to the signature in GH witness statement, the writing in the post above has all been done by GH, because it's all a close match, but this document above does not match the GH witness statement, the G is different and so is the HUTCH part.....

Because it wasn't Hutchinson's signature. It was Sgt Badham's. YOu need to look at the last signature on the statement. It's all on this site if you go back enough, If you are open-minded and have no bias toward Hutchinson either way, you will see that it is one and the same man. I'm afraid you may not see it, however.

Mike

[Malcolm X]

lets compare the signature above to the signature in GH witness statement, the writing in the post above has all been done by GH, because it's all a close match, but this document above does not match the GH witness statement, the G is different and so is the HUTCH part.....

all the other signatures here on this thread have been done by the person filling out the documents, so dont count

in addition and quite a shock to suddenly notice :- the witness signature looks like HEUTCH, that is definitely an E after the H, it looks like he's spelt his name wrong as well !

i've blown it up and marked the E in red, that definitely looks like an E, whatever the case the signatures dont look that similar

[Robert]

Toppy 1911.

[Lechmere]

With Toppy's half brother and a niece

[Robert]

Toppy's dad in 1891 living in Lenham Rd, Lewisham.