Tell me who JTR was

[mklhawley]

I have to agree with you GUT, if Jack the Ripper was a sadosexual serial killer. If Tumblety was the killer, his motive would have been other than sadosexual, since he was homosexual. Taking this into account, if he had a different motive, post-1888 violence would not necessarily be an issue. In January of 1888, Tumblety told some folks that he didn't know if he was going to live to the next day. The quack doctor, who claimed he could cure just about everything, had some chronic issues. This leads to other motives, which I've written about.

Sincerely,
Mike

[GUT]

G'day Mike

First time I've heard about the illness issue, where do I find your writing on it.

Thanks.

[Abby Normal]

Care to flesh out the 10. BTW I agree that there are worse suspects than that three, my only question mark over the Joes is that I can not imagine the police doing a pretty thorough investigation into them, as regardless their knowledge of Serial Killers they certainly knew about domestic murders and her two most recent partners must have been examined pretty closely.

Hi gut
Yes, my biggest problem with Barnett as a suspect is that the police interrogated him and ruled him out. Plus he had an alibi. As I said I view all suspects as weak, but only see some as least weak than others.

On the other hand, he was one of the last to see her and killers have been known to fool police during interrogations and have fake alibis. Plus I can't help but note that her heart was missing. I think Mary Kelly is the key and I do think the evidence points to the probability that she knew her killer.

My problem with Fleming is that there just is not enough on him and the police as far as we know never found him. But he was an ex,known to I'll use her, be violent and ended up with mental issues so he has to be considered.

[GUT]

G'day Abby

I think Barnett gets a walk, but is still worth a good look.

Fleming we just don't know enough about, I am not even 100% that we have found the right Fleming yet [Duck!!!].

In my opinion we have 10-20 suspects that continue to intrigue but I still think that in all probability it was an unknown.

[mklhawley]

G'day Mike

First time I've heard about the illness issue, where do I find your writing on it.

Thanks.

Hi GUT,

http://www.searchingfortruthwithabrokenflashlight.com/Other_Research.html

This should be start, and I have additional info that I'm collecting now.

[GUT]

Thanks Mike about to have a read.

[Digalittledeeperwatson]

Hullo Lynn!

Hello DLDW. Your tag line, well . . . the devil made me do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tgjkq-xmO8

Cheers.
LC

I'm prob a bit too sauced to be certain what you are getting at, but am certain that was terribly accurate. Cheers mate.

[lynn cates]

killer

Hello Gareth. Thanks.

Your signature, eh? What are you confessing to? (heh-heh)

(Reminds me of a line from "Murder by Death"--"Was there a murder or not?" Peter Sellers's reply? "Yes. Killed good week end.")

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

spoof

Hello DLDW. Thanks.

Merely a lampoon.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

good luck

Hello Mike. Good luck with the essay.

Cheers.
LC

[mklhawley]

Hi Lynn,

Thanks.

Mike

[Harry D]

To help visualise the scale we're up against, I created a document with 40,000 dots - each dot representing someone who might qualify as the Ripper, if we only knew more about them. The document runs to 11 pages, of which this image is the first:

The red circle on Page 1, bottom right, represents the "known known" reasonable suspects. The last page contains about 150 dots, which is about the number of suspects who have since been "exonerated" (or dismissed out of hand!), so we can ignore Page 11. Thus all the black dots, from Pages 1-10 inclusive, could be potential Rippers, and one of those dots quite possibly is him. Now, we would be incredibly fortunate if "his" dot was one of the ones in that little red circle, i.e. that he was one of the decent candidates whose name we already know. On the contrary, the odds seem very heavily weighted against that being the case... but he's out there somewhere, so keep scouring the census

Well that's a kick in the nuts, Sam.

"Mr. Nobody", is of course, my favourite for JTR. It's just been driving me crazy more than ever, how this case has never been solved, and the further we get from the event the less chance there is it ever will be. I've had sleepless nights going over all the possible scenarios, knowing that each and every one leads to a dead end. I guess this is just a rite of passage that all Ripperologists must go through at one stage or another!

RE: Tumblety. Not convinced. It's hard to believe that a six foot-something guy with an American accent and a handlebar moustache could conduct himself so inconspicuously. The police might have suspected him based on his history, but there's nothing to put him at the scene of the crimes (e.g. witness testimony).

Btw, was Tumblety ever linked to the Philadelphian doctor who was trying to procure uteruses (uteri?) in Whitechapel at the time?

[Mr Lucky]

Hi Harry D,

Well that's a kick in the nuts, Sam.

That reasoning applies to every crime ever committed (then and now), -should we just give up and never attempt to bring any one to justice ?

[mklhawley]

Btw, was Tumblety ever linked to the Philadelphian doctor who was trying to procure uteruses (uteri?) in Whitechapel at the time?

The New York Sun London correspondent, Frank White, claimed that this is one of the reasons why he was suspected.

[moonbegger]

The New York Sun London correspondent, Frank White, claimed that this is one of the reasons why he was suspected.

And the British Museum ( although not in Whitechapel ) is only a stone's throw from Cleveland street ! Tumblety's favorite source of entertainment .

moonbegger .