Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes
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(A) Age/physical health > 2 = no issue/1 = issues creating doubt.
(B) Access to murder sites > 2 = no issues/ 1 = within reasonable travel (train for e.g./ 0 = presence unproven/doubt
(C) Violence > 4 = murder of a woman with a knife/ 3 = murder of a woman (including the use of a knife) or murder with another weapon/ 2 = wounding a woman with a knife/ 1 = threatening a woman with a knife or physical violence using a weapon/ 0 = no violence (with knife or otherwise) 2 = violence with a knife/1 = violence without a knife/0 = no known violence.
(D) Mental health issues > 2 = serious/violent/sexual/1 = other/0 = none known.
(E) Police interest > 2 = at the time (without proven alibi)/1 = later (within 10 yrs and without exoneration)/0 = none known, not serious or exonerated.
(F) Hatred/dislike of women/prostitutes > 2 = yes/1 = link to prostitutes/0 = none known.
(G) Medical/anatomical knowledge (inc. animals) > 1 = yes/0 = none known
--- (A) (B) (C) (D) (E) (F) (G) ---
13 = 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 1 : Cutbush, Thomas Hayne
12 = 2 - 2 - 3 - 2 - 2 - 1 - 0 : Kelly, James
10 = 2 - 2 - 3 - 0 - 2 - 1 - 0 : Bury, William Henry
10 = 2 - 0 - 4 - 1 - 1 - 2 - 0 : Deeming, Frederick Bailey
09 = 2 - 1 - 2 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 : Grainger, William Grant
09 = 2 - 2 - 1 - 2 - 0 - 1 - 1 : Puckridge, Oswald
08 = 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 : Hyams, Hyam
08 = 2 - 2 - 1 - 2 - 1 - 0 - 0 : Kosminski, Aaron (Aron Mordke Kozminski)
08 = 2 - 2 - 1 - 1 - 0 - 1 - 1 : Barnado, Thomas John
08 = 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 : Pizer, John (Leather Apron)
08 = 2 - 2 - 1 - 2 - 0 - 1 - 0 : Cohen, David
07 = 2 - 2 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 : Lechmere, George Capel Scudamore
07 = 1 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 2 - 2 - 1 : Tumblety, Francis
07 = 2 - 2 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 2 - 0 : Smith, G. Wentworth Bell
06 = 2 - 2 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 : Kidney, Michael
06 = 2 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 1 : Thompson, Francis
06 = 2 - 2 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 : Chapman, George (Severin Antonowicz Kłosowski)
06 = 2 - 2 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 : Levy, Jacob
06 = 2 - 2 - 0 - 1 - 1 - 0 - 0 : Druitt, Montague John
06 = 2 - 0 - 4 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 : Carl Feigenbaum
06 = 2 - 0 - 3 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 : Hendrik De Jong
06 = 2 - 2 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 : Le Grand, Charles
05 = 2 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 : Barnett, Joseph
05 = 2 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 : Sutton, Henry Gawen
05 = 2 - 2 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 : Buchan, Edward
05 = 2 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 : Williams, Dr. John
05 = 2 - 2 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 : Craig, Francis Spurzheim
04 = 2 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 : Stephenson, Robert Donston (or Roslyn D'Onston)
04 = 2 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 : Maybrick, James
04 = 2 - 1 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 : Stephen, James Kenneth
04 = 2 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 : Bachert, Albert
04 = 2 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 : Cross, Charles (Charles Allen Lechmere)
04 = 2 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 : Hardiman, James
04 = 2 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 : Hutchinson, George
04 = 2 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 : Mann, Robert
04 = 2 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 : Maybrick, Michael
04 = 1 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 : Gull, Sir William Withey
03 = 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 : Sickert, Walter Richard
Changes Made
I have removed the drug/alcohol criteria as I feel that it isn’t of value and might be misleading. There are a large number of serial killers that don’t have these issues. I’d point out that by removing this category only 2 suspects have changed position in the list - GCS Lechmere and RD Stephenson.
I also made some changes to Cutbush after re-reading Bullock’s book - the violence criteria changed a while ago and I hadn’t altered Cutbush accordingly - For (E) Cutbush certainly was suspected at the time, Inspector Race was convinced of his guilt - For (F) Hatred of prostitutes has to be a 2. Cutbush blamed a prostitute for giving him syphilis and, according to his aunt, he had brutally raped a prostitute at some point - He also gets a point for anatomical knowledge. He was obsessed by anatomy and medical issues in general, he had books on surgery and anatomy and obsessively drew anatomical drawings.
(A) Age/physical health > 2 = no issue/1 = issues creating doubt.
(B) Access to murder sites > 2 = no issues/ 1 = within reasonable travel (train for e.g./ 0 = presence unproven/doubt
(C) Violence > 4 = murder of a woman with a knife/ 3 = murder of a woman (including the use of a knife) or murder with another weapon/ 2 = wounding a woman with a knife/ 1 = threatening a woman with a knife or physical violence using a weapon/ 0 = no violence (with knife or otherwise) 2 = violence with a knife/1 = violence without a knife/0 = no known violence.
(D) Mental health issues > 2 = serious/violent/sexual/1 = other/0 = none known.
(E) Police interest > 2 = at the time (without proven alibi)/1 = later (within 10 yrs and without exoneration)/0 = none known, not serious or exonerated.
(F) Hatred/dislike of women/prostitutes > 2 = yes/1 = link to prostitutes/0 = none known.
(G) Medical/anatomical knowledge (inc. animals) > 1 = yes/0 = none known
--- (A) (B) (C) (D) (E) (F) (G) ---
13 = 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 1 : Cutbush, Thomas Hayne
12 = 2 - 2 - 3 - 2 - 2 - 1 - 0 : Kelly, James
10 = 2 - 2 - 3 - 0 - 2 - 1 - 0 : Bury, William Henry
10 = 2 - 0 - 4 - 1 - 1 - 2 - 0 : Deeming, Frederick Bailey
09 = 2 - 1 - 2 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 : Grainger, William Grant
09 = 2 - 2 - 1 - 2 - 0 - 1 - 1 : Puckridge, Oswald
08 = 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 : Hyams, Hyam
08 = 2 - 2 - 1 - 2 - 1 - 0 - 0 : Kosminski, Aaron (Aron Mordke Kozminski)
08 = 2 - 2 - 1 - 1 - 0 - 1 - 1 : Barnado, Thomas John
08 = 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 : Pizer, John (Leather Apron)
08 = 2 - 2 - 1 - 2 - 0 - 1 - 0 : Cohen, David
07 = 2 - 2 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 : Lechmere, George Capel Scudamore
07 = 1 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 2 - 2 - 1 : Tumblety, Francis
07 = 2 - 2 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 2 - 0 : Smith, G. Wentworth Bell
06 = 2 - 2 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 : Kidney, Michael
06 = 2 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 1 : Thompson, Francis
06 = 2 - 2 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 : Chapman, George (Severin Antonowicz Kłosowski)
06 = 2 - 2 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 : Levy, Jacob
06 = 2 - 2 - 0 - 1 - 1 - 0 - 0 : Druitt, Montague John
06 = 2 - 0 - 4 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 : Carl Feigenbaum
06 = 2 - 0 - 3 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 : Hendrik De Jong
06 = 2 - 2 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 : Le Grand, Charles
05 = 2 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 : Barnett, Joseph
05 = 2 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 : Sutton, Henry Gawen
05 = 2 - 2 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 : Buchan, Edward
05 = 2 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 : Williams, Dr. John
05 = 2 - 2 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 : Craig, Francis Spurzheim
04 = 2 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 : Stephenson, Robert Donston (or Roslyn D'Onston)
04 = 2 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 : Maybrick, James
04 = 2 - 1 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 : Stephen, James Kenneth
04 = 2 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 : Bachert, Albert
04 = 2 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 : Cross, Charles (Charles Allen Lechmere)
04 = 2 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 : Hardiman, James
04 = 2 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 : Hutchinson, George
04 = 2 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 : Mann, Robert
04 = 2 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 : Maybrick, Michael
04 = 1 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 : Gull, Sir William Withey
03 = 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 : Sickert, Walter Richard
Changes Made
I have removed the drug/alcohol criteria as I feel that it isn’t of value and might be misleading. There are a large number of serial killers that don’t have these issues. I’d point out that by removing this category only 2 suspects have changed position in the list - GCS Lechmere and RD Stephenson.
I also made some changes to Cutbush after re-reading Bullock’s book - the violence criteria changed a while ago and I hadn’t altered Cutbush accordingly - For (E) Cutbush certainly was suspected at the time, Inspector Race was convinced of his guilt - For (F) Hatred of prostitutes has to be a 2. Cutbush blamed a prostitute for giving him syphilis and, according to his aunt, he had brutally raped a prostitute at some point - He also gets a point for anatomical knowledge. He was obsessed by anatomy and medical issues in general, he had books on surgery and anatomy and obsessively drew anatomical drawings.
Kelly killed his wife with a knife but scores less than Deeming
Bury didn't kill with a knife, but used it postmortem.
Shouldn't Deeming, Kelly and Bury all get the same points for violence?
The Ripper adter all used a knife to kill AND then used it postmortem.
Just a thought
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