Who are the mostly likely suspects?

[lynn cates]

simplicity

Hello Michael. Ah, but as CS Lewis observed, sometimes reality is not simple.

I seek neither simplicity nor complications--only truth. (Ugh, sounds a bit stilted. So sorry.)

Cheers.
LC

[The Good Michael]

Hello Michael. Ah, but as CS Lewis observed, sometimes reality is not simple.

I seek neither simplicity nor complications--only truth. (Ugh, sounds a bit stilted. So sorry.)

Cheers.
LC

CS Lewis? Yeah, but what did Carlos Castaneda say? I think that's the path we should go down.

Mike

[lynn cates]

toke it to the limit

Hello Michael. Um, I don't smoke foreign substances.

Cheers.
LC

[Malcolm X]

Hello Malcolm. Almost missed you. So sorry.

" . . . he started his anti-semitic rubbish at Dutfields only, but he didn't bother with regards to MJK . . ."

But why start then? Are you suggesting a complete change of motive?

"........ you only see this from GH and no other top suspect!"

To describe someone as looking Jewish is not necessarily anti-semitic. In his mind perhaps just a statement of fact? (Umm, top suspect?)

"GH carried on what JTR started a month earlier...............Blotchy Face did not."

What did "he" start a month earlier? And who was Blotchy anyway?

"Now 2 + 2 = 4 doesn't it?"

Well, I should think so. I should also think that would be MY line.

Cheers.
LC

hi Lynn

oh yes, i'm definitely suggesting a change in motive, because the evidence for this is there, but what i'm saying is this anti-semetic theme, isn't in the MJK murder, we see no evidence of this..... that is, if you favour JTR to be Blotchy..... only GH continues this.

why he chose to blame them, plus to up his mutilations to the face and the body of MJK goes way beyond me, my guess is it's to deflect police attention away from him and onto a JEW that's rapidly going insane.

he was probably interested in the mutilations too, but it's more of a mixture of quite a few things, rather than one thing only.

.

[lynn cates]

what about . . . ?

Hello Malcolm.

"Oh yes, I'm definitely suggesting a change in motive . . ."

Very well. But I was given to understand that serial killers do not change motive? (Of course, I think serial killing has nothing to do with it.)

" . . . because the evidence for this is there"

As you wish. But I have difficulty seeing it.

" . . . but what I'm saying is this anti-semitic theme, isn't in the MJK murder, we see no evidence of this . . ."

Completely agreed.

" . . . that is, if you favour JTR to be Blotchy . . . "

I don't.

" . . . only GH continues this."

How? Surely not by describing A-Man as Jewish looking?

" . . . why he chose to blame them, plus to up his mutilations to the face and the body of MJK goes way beyond me . . ."

Well, with a change in technique and motive, a rather obvious suggestion presents itself.

" . . . my guess is it's to deflect police attention away from him and onto a JEW that's rapidly going insane."

Were the police really attending to him? Did they have a prime suspect at this time?

" . . . he was probably interested in the mutilations too, but it's more of a mixture of quite a few things, rather than one thing only."

Did you say mixture of motives or mixture of perpetrators?

Cheers.
LC

[The Good Michael]

Hello Michael. Um, I don't smoke foreign substances.

I see. Favor the local stuff, do ye?

Mike

[GregBaron]

Pot to p*ss in?

You are right about the investigation of Blotchy. I found a snippet in "The Echo" in which all the local pubs had their bar tenders chatted up concerning Blotchy. None recognised the description. Next they questioned the "pot boys" about "pot returns" at Miller's court. No luck again.

Sometimes we forget how thorough the Met were.

Cheers.
LC

Hi Lynn,

Can you tell me what the "pot" means? Also, and I've always gotten a kick out of this, what exactly is a pail of beer? I believe the coroner at the inquest later called it a "can". Can someone tell me what it might have looked like? I know it's probably irrelevant but I find it curious. Maybe, ie;, he didn't get it in a pub but at a private residence?

Also, was it permitted to be roaming the streets while swilling alcohol? Very much a no no today in most places...

Point. If Blotchy was so non-descript as to be unremembered by the local barmen (bartenders), doesn't this coincide with what we expect of JTR?

On another point, I don't think the killer was too concerned about witnesses as they seemed to abound...


Greg

[The Good Michael]

Greg,

a pail was exactly that, a pail of beer. It came in quarts and you could buy it at any pub because they didn't care much about rules and regulations.

Mike

[GregBaron]

Bucket 'o Beer...

Greg,

a pail was exactly that, a pail of beer. It came in quarts and you could buy it at any pub because they didn't care much about rules and regulations.

Mike

Thanks Mike. I suppose this means you could buy it and carry it to the streets. I'm not sure why I find this amusing but I do. Which one of these was it?

Maybe he carried the heart away in said pail..?

Greg

[The Good Michael]

Thanks Mike. I suppose this means you could buy it and carry it to the streets. I'm not sure why I find this amusing but I do. Which one of these was it?

Maybe he carried the heart away in said pail..?

It could be any of them, Greg. About the heart, that's been suggested a lot in the past. Who knows?

Mike

[lynn cates]

cover

Hello Greg, Michael. Might add a lid or cover.

cheers.
LC

[Chris Scott]

This is very much how I think the beer container would have been
have a look at

http://www.bottless.net/The_History_of_The_Beer_Growler_s/605.htm?searching=Y

for more info
Chris

[Abby Normal]

Hello Abby. Thanks. Two quick points.

1. If they drank together, got comfortable together, perhaps even passed out together, where was the knife at this time? If it were concealed in his coat, would not that have been off whilst he were "relaxing"?

2. What was GH's motive for making up the A-man story? To be important?

Cheers.
LC

Hi Lynn
The knife was probably in his coat, on or off. If off he could have retreived it at any time. GH-yes and perhaps for cash.

[The Good Michael]

This is very much how I think the beer container would have been
have a look at

http://www.bottless.net/The_History_of_The_Beer_Growler_s/605.htm?searching=Y

for more info

Here's another from capitaltaps Blogspot. Looks like a thriving business for lunch! Can't do that in America these days.

Mike

[GregBaron]

Fill it to the rim sir...

This is very much how I think the beer container would have been
have a look at

http://www.bottless.net/The_History_of_The_Beer_Growler_s/605.htm?searching=Y

for more info
Chris

Thanks Chris. That's good stuff, exactly what I was looking for...

In the U.S. today, one often sees youngsters ordering a bucket of beer which looks like the growlers shown except it's filled with about a half dozen bottles.

If one attempts to abscond outdoors with said bucket however, retribution is swift...

Greg