Have Ripperologists Been Polled As To Who They Think Jack Really Was?

[lynn cates]

problem

Hello Caroline. Thanks for that.

I suppose that aspect of the case has never once bothered me. If I recall properly, both Polly and Annie had bruises apparently marking where digits were inserted as part of their strangulation. That would take, I suppose, 2-5 minutes. Time seems not to be a factor in their deaths.

Time, however, would be a BIG factor in Kate's death--given, of course, the usual timeline suggested by Gareth Williams in his excellent dissertation.

So perhaps her assailant was the only one with that problem AND the right knowledge to circumvent it?

Cheers.
LC

[DVV]

Suggesting 'that', does not make it so.

Regards, Jon S.

I even believe it's absurd, Jon, hence the oxymoron.

[Wickerman]

Eddowes has been disfigured by a creative copycat, hasn't she ?

Suggesting 'that', does not make it so.

Regards, Jon S.

[DVV]

Eddowes has been disfigured by a creative copycat, hasn't she ?

[Rubyretro]

very good point, Caz..

[caz]

Hi Lynn,

Loosely related to the question of who we think Jack really was...

...a question for you about the various copycat theories, if I may:

The papers may have been full of details about the shocking murders, but many details were either missing, inaccurate or invented. There was also a common theme running through: the police, the press, even the doctors, were all at a loss to explain how the victims were initially subdued, so effectively, so quickly and with so little fuss. We still ask the question today, and we have access to far more detailed and accurate information than anyone on the street in 1888.

So my question is how would your copycat killer(s) have guessed, or discovered, what this highly mysterious trick was, when no expert in the land could apparently work it out? And what were the chances of putting the trick into practice and getting it perfect first time, either by accident or design?

As you know, I already struggle with the idea that 'Jack' was really several killers, all with their own reasons for snuffing out an unfortunate life or two at the same time and place. I really struggle with all these extras making a reasonably decent job of coming together as one Jack and fooling so many, in an age long before 'repeat offender' tripped off the tongue.

Love,

Caz
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[lynn cates]

Saucy jack

Hello Jon. Have another go at the "Saucy Jack" and my reasoning should become clear.

Cheers.
LC

[Wickerman]

That's very nearly correct, in my opinion.

Been at the xmas spirits have we Lynn?

[lynn cates]

close

Hello Tom.

"It should be obvious that Le Grand killed Eddowes and spent the next week or so stirring things up in Berner Street to get at the guy who stole part of his thunder."

That's very nearly correct, in my opinion.

Cheers.
LC

[Tom_Wescott]

Scott,

Your research and deductive reasoning have clearly gone south. It should be obvious that Le Grand killed Eddowes and spent the next week or so stirring things up in Berner Street to get at the guy who stole part of his thunder. Fanny Mortimer killed Stride. Where have you been?

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[lynn cates]

and then . . .

Hello Scott. I don't see Liz and Kate together.

Fleming is an attractive choice for whomever died in Miller's Court. But there are many questions to be answered--as I'm sure you know. In particular, what do we know about Sir Ed's "Miss Worth" and Alice Carroll?

Before any case gets closed, MUCH more evidence must be presented.

Cheers.
LC

[Scott Nelson]

OK, so the mad pork butcher killed Nichols and Chapman. Le Grand killed Stride and Eddowes. And I guess that leaves Fleming as Kelly's killer.

Newland Smith killed MacKenzie and Sadler killed Coles. Mystery solved.

[lynn cates]

Druitt

Hello Maria. Murder, perhaps; mutilation?

Of course, we are just beginning to get a "feel" for Druitt.

Cheers.
LC

[mariab]

But my point is that astute gentleman like Jonathan Hainsworth, John Ruffles and Andrew Spallek would beg to differ.
There were obviously several individuals in Autumn, 1888 capable of murder

I'm very interested in the aforementioned gentlemen's research on Druitt, but I don't consider him as capable of murder.

[lynn cates]

parallels

Hello Tom. Well spoke.

Drawing a parallel with the Phoenix Park murders, once the case was solved, all the seeming contradictory evidence came together and fit like a hand in a glove. The lone report of a car going east, not west? Turns out there were 2 cars. 3 different reports of car colour? Some were poor witnesses. There were even 2 sets of surgical instruments--and Mallon had the wrong set.

Cheers.
LC