What makes Druitt a viable suspect?

[Herlock Sholmes]

A 'homicidal maniac' is a mentally unstable person who kills people. If Druitt was such a person, who had he killed prior to incarceration? And why wasn't he kept permanently in a lunatic asylum?

Macnaghten: "No one ever saw the Whitechapel murderer; many homicidal maniacs were suspected, but no shadow of proof could be thrown on any one."

Why were all these homicidal maniacs out on the street?

Hello Simon,

Isn't this just a case of Macnaghten, a non-medical man, using an inaccurate description? Basically saying that he was a “mad killer?” A stereotypical description?

[Wickerman]

I like these interesting snippets of info. This one was discovered by Paul Begg in the memoirs of a Vice Admiral H.L.Fleet:

““....The Heath itself had a bad reputation after dark. When we lived there formerly it was considered dangerous, for the terrible series of crimes committed by Jack The Ripper were then being perpetrated, and many people believed that he lived in Blackheath.””

Exactly, they say there's no smoke without fire.
And this rumor was while the murders were taking place, if I recall correctly.

[GUT]

A 'homicidal maniac' is a mentally unstable person who kills people. If Druitt was such a person, who had he killed prior to incarceration? And why wasn't he kept permanently in a lunatic asylum?

Macnaghten: "No one ever saw the Whitechapel murderer; many homicidal maniacs were suspected, but no shadow of proof could be thrown on any one."

Why were all these homicidal maniacs out on the street?

Mac doesn’t say Montie was a homicidal maniac, just that many were suspected.

[The Baron]

Exactly, they say there's no smoke without fire.
And this rumor was while the murders were taking place, if I recall correctly.

But, That was January 1895 Jon.

The Baron

[GUT]

Exactly, they say there's no smoke without fire.
And this rumor was while the murders were taking place, if I recall correctly.

And the Vice Admiral, the M.P. and Macnaghten all point to Druitt, or more accurately he is the only known subject all three point towards.

[Wickerman]

But, That was January 1895 Jon.

The Baron

No, no it wasn't Baron. That date (1895) is when the Admiral came to visit.

The sentence began with, "when we lived there formerly..." (before this 1895 visit), and goes on to say "for the terrible series of crimes committed by Jack the Ripper were then being perpetrated".

Which shows those rumors were current with the murders.

[The Baron]

No, no it wasn't Baron. That date (1895) is when the Admiral came to visit.

The sentence began with, "when we lived there formerly..." (before this 1895 visit), and goes on to say "for the terrible series of crimes committed by Jack the Ripper were then being perpetrated".

Which shows those rumors were current with the murders.

Beacuse in February 1891, the MP for West Dorset, Henry Richard Farquharson, announced that Jack the Ripper was the son of a surgeon who had committed suicide on the night of the last murder.
Farquharson lived 10 miles (16 km) from the Druitt family and was part of the same social class.

And from there on were the rumors.

Nothing at all to show those rumors were while the murders were taking place as you thought.



The Baron

[Joshua Rogan]

No, no it wasn't Baron. That date (1895) is when the Admiral came to visit.

The sentence began with, "when we lived there formerly..." (before this 1895 visit), and goes on to say "for the terrible series of crimes committed by Jack the Ripper were then being perpetrated".

Which shows those rumors were current with the murders.

It does seem that his son was born in Blackheath on 28 Nov 1888

[Herlock Sholmes]

Beacuse in February 1891, the MP for West Dorset, Henry Richard Farquharson, announced that Jack the Ripper was the son of a surgeon who had committed suicide on the night of the last murder.
Farquharson lived 10 miles (16 km) from the Druitt family and was part of the same social class.

And from there on were the rumors.

Nothing at all to show those rumors were while the murders were taking place as you thought.



The Baron

Yet again you are completely wrong.

The story appeared in a book called My Life And A Few Yarns published in 1922.

The author, Rear Admiral HL Fleet said, quite clearly:

“” ““When we lived there formerly it was considered dangerous, for the terrible series of crimes committed by Jack The Ripper were then being perpetrated, and many people believed that he lived in Blackheath”.”””

So he’s saying that the crimes were being perpetrated when he was there. And so the idea that the ripper lived in Blackheath was current.

It can’t be clearer - at the time of the murders some people thought that the ripper lived in Blackheath.

I don’t suppose that you’ll be honest enough to admit this mistake either?

[Wickerman]

Beacuse in February 1891, the MP for West Dorset, Henry Richard Farquharson, announced that Jack the Ripper was the son of a surgeon who had committed suicide on the night of the last murder.
Farquharson lived 10 miles (16 km) from the Druitt family and was part of the same social class.

And from there on were the rumors.

Nothing at all to show those rumors were while the murders were taking place as you thought.



The Baron

Its not what I thought Baron, it's what is written in that paragraph. The rumors were around Blackheath at the time of the murders.

[Wickerman]

It does seem that his son was born in Blackheath on 28 Nov 1888

Thankyou for that, confirmation Admiral Fleet lived in Blackheath at the time of the murders.

[Wickerman]

So this paragraph tends to support Mac's claim about rumors concerning Druitt (or, someone living in Blackheath) being involved in the murders AT the time the murders were taking place - not years later.
Which tends to suggest this person (Druitt) might have been a contemporary suspect after all.

[The Baron]

The question is, whether Druitt was a police suspect BEFORE he committed suicide or after.


The Baron

[The Baron]

Yet again you are completely wrong.

The story appeared in a book called My Life And A Few Yarns published in 1922.

The author, Rear Admiral HL Fleet said, quite clearly:

“” ““When we lived there formerly it was considered dangerous, for the terrible series of crimes committed by Jack The Ripper were then being perpetrated, and many people believed that he lived in Blackheath”.”””

So he’s saying that the crimes were being perpetrated when he was there. And so the idea that the ripper lived in Blackheath was current.

It can’t be clearer - at the time of the murders some people thought that the ripper lived in Blackheath.

I don’t suppose that you’ll be honest enough to admit this mistake either?

This series of crimes include Mackenzie and Coles too.

Live with it.


The Baron

[The Baron]

Since the pro-Druitt will not bring the story to the end, here it is:

He was never caught, although it was sometimes stated that he had been and was confined in Broadmoor


Nothing about suicide or death!

Didn't they know that Druitt was dead in 1888 ?!


The Baron