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The Strange Death Of Montague John Druitt
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Yes, thanks, I did have one in mind. Took some time to find it though.Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View PostThere’s this one
Here, from the Chelmsford Chronicle of 26 Apr. 1867


The point to note is the paperwork & hand written documents were still perfectly readable.Regards, Jon S.
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Without seeing evidence you would assume that these kind of documents couldn’t survive in water but clearly they can.Originally posted by Wickerman View PostYes, thanks, I did have one in mind. Took some time to find it though.
Here, from the Chelmsford Chronicle of 26 Apr. 1867


The point to note is the paperwork & hand written documents were still perfectly readable.Herlock Sholmes
”I don’t know who Jack the Ripper was…and neither do you.”
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yes I have discovered that leather billfolds exactly like we have today were in use and that, in December, this billfold would have been in the pocket of a thick wool coat. Every chance of it still being legible because of so many layers of waterproof materials around the papers. I dont want to guess at it though so I am going to conduct an experiment to see what we can see. Just FYI I have spoken to someone who makes Victorian style clothing like the ubiquitous Chesterfield coat he was likely wearing and have discovered that this coat, all by itself, once saturated, weighed enough to anchor him to the floor of the river. All any rocks would do is make sure the coat didnt ebb and flow with the tide. Will have to conduct an experiment on this to ascertain the facts as well. Going to be a busy summer. You people have given me a new lease on life!Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
Without seeing evidence you would assume that these kind of documents couldn’t survive in water but clearly they can.
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I hope your experiments exclude actual reconstruction of MJD's fate?Originally posted by bernadette View Post
yes I have discovered that leather billfolds exactly like we have today were in use and that, in December, this billfold would have been in the pocket of a thick wool coat. Every chance of it still being legible because of so many layers of waterproof materials around the papers. I dont want to guess at it though so I am going to conduct an experiment to see what we can see. Just FYI I have spoken to someone who makes Victorian style clothing like the ubiquitous Chesterfield coat he was likely wearing and have discovered that this coat, all by itself, once saturated, weighed enough to anchor him to the floor of the river. All any rocks would do is make sure the coat didnt ebb and flow with the tide. Will have to conduct an experiment on this to ascertain the facts as well. Going to be a busy summer. You people have given me a new lease on life!Sapere Aude
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The issue of the coat, always assuming it is the same type, only means the body may not have drifted far from where he went in. However, surface currents at the time are not known, and once it does sink and decomposition begins, the methane gas build-up in the body will lift it off the bottom and it will begin to float after a few days.Originally posted by bernadette View Post
yes I have discovered that leather billfolds exactly like we have today were in use and that, in December, this billfold would have been in the pocket of a thick wool coat. Every chance of it still being legible because of so many layers of waterproof materials around the papers. I dont want to guess at it though so I am going to conduct an experiment to see what we can see. Just FYI I have spoken to someone who makes Victorian style clothing like the ubiquitous Chesterfield coat he was likely wearing and have discovered that this coat, all by itself, once saturated, weighed enough to anchor him to the floor of the river. All any rocks would do is make sure the coat didnt ebb and flow with the tide. Will have to conduct an experiment on this to ascertain the facts as well. Going to be a busy summer. You people have given me a new lease on life!
After all, Winslade was reported to have found a floating body, he did not lift it up from the river bed.Regards, Jon S.
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