Why William Henry Bury may have been Jack

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • The Baron
    Inspector
    • Feb 2019
    • 1492

    #121
    Doesn't it bother you John, that Abberline no less, who himself did inquiries about Bury, from those two wive's killers, he ended favouring Chapman as the ripper?!

    Although Chapman didn't strangle nor mutilate his wives, he was the chosen one?!

    Bury was forsakened, abandoned, neglected by the Police, he is not worthy.



    The Baron

    Comment

    • Herlock Sholmes
      Commissioner
      • May 2017
      • 22321

      #122
      So…..Abberline shows questionable judgment in favouring Chapman but his judgment was fine when rejecting Bury. That rings a bell. Like when it was pointed out that Macnaghten mentioned Kosminski which was commended by the person mentioning it whilst at the same time denigrating Macnaghten for mentioning Druitt. We see a trend of selectivity. Macnaghten (naming Druitt) dismissed because he wasn’t a career police officer and yet Anderson (naming Kosminski) is absolutely fine even though he wasn’t a career police officer. The pattern is obvious and the agenda is clear.

      Sutcliffe was also ‘neglected’ by the police after been talked to 9 times and he was 100% guilty. And unless it’s believed that this was the only time that the police have ever been wrong then I fail to see the point in mentioning it in the first place.

      Weak points. Trying to dismiss Bury is an exercise in futility. One person thinks he’s a poor suspect. Who cares? Ripperology is becoming a breeding ground for bias, for opinions based on personalities and a lack of balance.
      Last edited by Herlock Sholmes; 07-06-2024, 07:59 PM.
      Regards

      Herlock Sholmes

      ”I think that Herlock is a genius.” Trevor Marriott

      Comment

      • John Wheat
        Assistant Commissioner
        • Jul 2008
        • 3393

        #123
        Originally posted by The Baron View Post
        Doesn't it bother you John, that Abberline no less, who himself did inquiries about Bury, from those two wive's killers, he ended favouring Chapman as the ripper?!

        Although Chapman didn't strangle nor mutilate his wives, he was the chosen one?!

        Bury was forsakened, abandoned, neglected by the Police, he is not worthy.



        The Baron
        No it doesn't bother me. Anyone who favours Chapman over Bury clearly doesn't understand about Serial Killers.

        Comment

        • The Baron
          Inspector
          • Feb 2019
          • 1492

          #124
          Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

          No it doesn't bother me. Anyone who favours Chapman over Bury clearly doesn't understand about Serial Killers.


          At least they can count John



          The Baron

          Comment

          • The Baron
            Inspector
            • Feb 2019
            • 1492

            #125
            Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
            So…..Abberline shows questionable judgment in favouring Chapman but his judgment was fine when rejecting Bury. That rings a bell. Like when it was pointed out that Macnaghten mentioned Kosminski which was commended by the person mentioning it whilst at the same time denigrating Macnaghten for mentioning Druitt. We see a trend of selectivity. Macnaghten (naming Druitt) dismissed because he wasn’t a career police officer and yet Anderson (naming Kosminski) is absolutely fine even though he wasn’t a career police officer. The pattern is obvious and the agenda is clear.

            Sutcliffe was also ‘neglected’ by the police after been talked to 9 times and he was 100% guilty. And unless it’s believed that this was the only time that the police have ever been wrong then I fail to see the point in mentioning it in the first place.

            Weak points. Trying to dismiss Bury is an exercise in futility. One person thinks he’s a poor suspect. Who cares? Ripperology is becoming a breeding ground for bias, for opinions based on personalities and a lack of balance.

            Typical auto-post, one can heardly make head or tail from, as if the words get mixed randomly together..

            Macnaghten Anderson Kosminski Druitt Bury Chapman Sutcliffe Abberline ...

            I say wait until the match ends and try again?


            The Baron

            Comment

            • Lewis C
              Inspector
              • Dec 2022
              • 1162

              #126
              Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
              So…..Abberline shows questionable judgment in favouring Chapman but his judgment was fine when rejecting Bury. That rings a bell. Like when it was pointed out that Macnaghten mentioned Kosminski which was commended by the person mentioning it whilst at the same time denigrating Macnaghten for mentioning Druitt. We see a trend of selectivity. Macnaghten (naming Druitt) dismissed because he wasn’t a career police officer and yet Anderson (naming Kosminski) is absolutely fine even though he wasn’t a career police officer. The pattern is obvious and the agenda is clear.

              Sutcliffe was also ‘neglected’ by the police after been talked to 9 times and he was 100% guilty. And unless it’s believed that this was the only time that the police have ever been wrong then I fail to see the point in mentioning it in the first place.

              Weak points. Trying to dismiss Bury is an exercise in futility. One person thinks he’s a poor suspect. Who cares? Ripperology is becoming a breeding ground for bias, for opinions based on personalities and a lack of balance.
              Hi Herlock,

              Speaking of Abberline, didn't he say that Robert Anderson didn't know who the Ripper was, he only thought he did? Abberline's opinion about Anderson's suspect is just as valid as his opinion about Bury.

              Comment

              • Scott Nelson
                Superintendent
                • Feb 2008
                • 2428

                #127
                John Littlechild presumably hand-wrote that note at the bottom of his typewritten letter to George Sims. I say 'presumably' because it seems to have been added as an afterthought. I proposed the possibility that it was Sims himself who wrote this note on Littlechild's letter along with the hand-written editorial corrections to the typescript in the letter.

                Comment

                • Herlock Sholmes
                  Commissioner
                  • May 2017
                  • 22321

                  #128
                  Originally posted by The Baron View Post


                  Typical auto-post, one can heardly make head or tail from, as if the words get mixed randomly together..

                  Macnaghten Anderson Kosminski Druitt Bury Chapman Sutcliffe Abberline ...

                  I say wait until the match ends and try again?


                  The Baron
                  It’s very simple and written in plain English. To put it in an even simpler form it’s an illustration of how you repeated move the goalposts to suit your own purpose.

                  Abberline makes a strange choice in favouring a poisoner….but you note him for dismissing Bury. So he shows pour judgment on Chapman but good judgment on Bury. It’s a case of cherrypicking.

                  In a recent post elsewhere, when discussing the merits of Kosminski, you pointed out that he was named by Macnaghten (as a plus point) and yet when it’s mentioned that Macnaghten favoured Druitt he becomes an idiot or a liar. Again…cherrypicking.

                  And finally, you have repeatedly derided Macnaghten, as the proposer of Druitt, because he’d had another job before joining the police (I believe that you kept calling him the Tea Planter as a term of derision) and yet the person who proposes the suspect that you favour, Anderson, also had another job before joining the police (a barrister) but this is fine. Again, very obvious cherrypicking.

                  I hope that was easy enough to understand?
                  Regards

                  Herlock Sholmes

                  ”I think that Herlock is a genius.” Trevor Marriott

                  Comment

                  • The Baron
                    Inspector
                    • Feb 2019
                    • 1492

                    #129
                    Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post


                    Abberline makes a strange choice in favouring a poisoner


                    Any why is it strange? Because you said so?! Even historian Philip Sugden chose his side, do you know better than Abberline and Sugden?!


                    Your post is just running in circles and summons of sagas as an attempt to avoide addressing the substantial idea, I bet you think you nailed it.



                    The Baron

                    Comment

                    • Herlock Sholmes
                      Commissioner
                      • May 2017
                      • 22321

                      #130
                      Originally posted by The Baron View Post


                      Any why is it strange? Because you said so?! Even historian Philip Sugden chose his side, do you know better than Abberline and Sugden?!


                      Your post is just running in circles and summons of sagas as an attempt to avoide addressing the substantial idea, I bet you think you nailed it.



                      The Baron
                      I’ve just shown that you keep cherrypicking. You haven’t made a single valid point. Not one.
                      Regards

                      Herlock Sholmes

                      ”I think that Herlock is a genius.” Trevor Marriott

                      Comment

                      • John Wheat
                        Assistant Commissioner
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 3393

                        #131
                        Originally posted by The Baron View Post



                        At least they can count John



                        The Baron
                        Is that a reference to Mackenzie? Who in all likelihood wasn't a Ripper victim.

                        Comment

                        • Lewis C
                          Inspector
                          • Dec 2022
                          • 1162

                          #132
                          Originally posted by Scott Nelson View Post
                          John Littlechild presumably hand-wrote that note at the bottom of his typewritten letter to George Sims. I say 'presumably' because it seems to have been added as an afterthought. I proposed the possibility that it was Sims himself who wrote this note on Littlechild's letter along with the hand-written editorial corrections to the typescript in the letter.
                          Thank you, Scott.

                          Comment

                          • Lewis C
                            Inspector
                            • Dec 2022
                            • 1162

                            #133
                            Originally posted by The Baron View Post


                            Any why is it strange? Because you said so?! Even historian Philip Sugden chose his side, do you know better than Abberline and Sugden?!


                            Your post is just running in circles and summons of sagas as an attempt to avoide addressing the substantial idea, I bet you think you nailed it.



                            The Baron
                            I don't think Sugden really considered Bury. It appears to me that he looked at Chapman, Druitt, Aaron Kosminski, and Ostrog, and concluded that Chapman was the best suspect of those four.

                            Comment

                            • Herlock Sholmes
                              Commissioner
                              • May 2017
                              • 22321

                              #134
                              Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

                              Is that a reference to Mackenzie? Who in all likelihood wasn't a Ripper victim.
                              But she can be roped in when convenient John. And apparently, if one person says that she was definitely a victim then that’s good enough. I’ll say it again…who needs balance?
                              Regards

                              Herlock Sholmes

                              ”I think that Herlock is a genius.” Trevor Marriott

                              Comment

                              • The Baron
                                Inspector
                                • Feb 2019
                                • 1492

                                #135
                                Do you think Bury might have written the "From Hell" letter Herlock?!


                                The Baron

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X