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  • Herlock Sholmes
    Commissioner
    • May 2017
    • 22333

    #136
    Originally posted by The Baron View Post
    Do you think Bury might have written the "From Hell" letter Herlock?!


    The Baron
    I haven’t a clue if the letter was genuine or not or who wrote it. I can’t think of any way that letter points to or away from any suspect.

    Why?
    Regards

    Herlock Sholmes

    ”I think that Herlock is a genius.” Trevor Marriott

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    • The Baron
      Inspector
      • Feb 2019
      • 1492

      #137
      Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

      I haven’t a clue if the letter was genuine or not or who wrote it. I can’t think of any way that letter points to or away from any suspect.

      Why?

      Nothing, just some Buryians claim there are similarities between Bury's handwriting and this letter.

      The author of this letter says he fried and eat the Kidney of his victim.


      But Bury didn't eat anything of his wife, not even her small finger!


      Anyone who believes the "From Hell" letter was written by the ripper, should erase the name Bury from his list.


      I expect the usual trade mark of yours: We just don't know.



      The Baron

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      • Herlock Sholmes
        Commissioner
        • May 2017
        • 22333

        #138
        Originally posted by The Baron View Post


        Nothing, just some Buryians claim there are similarities between Bury's handwriting and this letter.

        The author of this letter says he fried and eat the Kidney of his victim.


        But Bury didn't eat anything of his wife, not even her small finger!


        Anyone who believes the "From Hell" letter was written by the ripper, should erase the name Bury from his list.


        I expect the usual trade mark of yours: We just don't know.



        The Baron

        So you think it’s better to state that we know something that we can’t possibly know rather than be honest and admit that we don’t know?

        You’ve just illustrated your entire approach to the subject Baron.

        I’ll stick to the honest approach thanks.

        Regards

        Herlock Sholmes

        ”I think that Herlock is a genius.” Trevor Marriott

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        • John Wheat
          Assistant Commissioner
          • Jul 2008
          • 3397

          #139
          Originally posted by The Baron View Post


          Nothing, just some Buryians claim there are similarities between Bury's handwriting and this letter.

          The author of this letter says he fried and eat the Kidney of his victim.


          But Bury didn't eat anything of his wife, not even her small finger!


          Anyone who believes the "From Hell" letter was written by the ripper, should erase the name Bury from his list.


          I expect the usual trade mark of yours: We just don't know.



          The Baron
          Ridiculous post. No one knows who wrote the "From Hell" letter. Even if it was written by Bury how would that down grade him as a suspect?

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          • GBinOz
            Assistant Commissioner
            • Jun 2021
            • 3046

            #140
            Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

            No one knows who wrote the "From Hell" letter. Even if it was written by Bury how would that down grade him as a suspect?
            While it is true that no one knows who wrote the "From Hell" letter, even if it was written by Bury, it would not upgrade him as a suspect.
            No experience of the failure of his policy could shake his belief in its essential excellence - The March of Folly by Barbara Tuchman

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            • The Baron
              Inspector
              • Feb 2019
              • 1492

              #141
              If cannibalism was Jack the Ripper's motive, and there is a good chance that it is, then Bury is out, completely.


              Unless that after killing his wife, Bury noticed he was not that hungry..

              Or maybe Ellen was not so appetizing.. ?!


              -- "We just don't know"


              The Baron

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              • John Wheat
                Assistant Commissioner
                • Jul 2008
                • 3397

                #142
                Originally posted by The Baron View Post
                If cannibalism was Jack the Ripper's motive, and there is a good chance that it is, then Bury is out, completely.


                Unless that after killing his wife, Bury noticed he was not that hungry..

                Or maybe Ellen was not so appetizing.. ?!


                -- "We just don't know"


                The Baron
                I doubt cannibalism was the Ripper's motive though.

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                • John Wheat
                  Assistant Commissioner
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 3397

                  #143
                  Originally posted by GBinOz View Post

                  While it is true that no one knows who wrote the "From Hell" letter, even if it was written by Bury, it would not upgrade him as a suspect.
                  Hi George

                  I never said Bury writing the From Hell letter would upgrade his status as a suspect. I just said it wouldnt downgrade him as a suspect.

                  Cheers John

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                  • The Baron
                    Inspector
                    • Feb 2019
                    • 1492

                    #144
                    Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

                    I doubt cannibalism was the Ripper's motive though.


                    Great, so let's hear you man, tell us, inform us, remove this mist that blinds our eyes

                    What was the Ripper's motive?!

                    Why did he harvest victim's organs?

                    To smell them? To sell them?



                    The Baron

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                    • John Wheat
                      Assistant Commissioner
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 3397

                      #145
                      Originally posted by The Baron View Post



                      Great, so let's hear you man, tell us, inform us, remove this mist that blinds our eyes

                      What was the Ripper's motive?!

                      Why did he harvest victim's organs?

                      To smell them? To sell them?



                      The Baron
                      I think it likely the Ripper's motive was the ripping itself. Causing damage to the female body. I think the removal of organs was part of that.

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                      • The Baron
                        Inspector
                        • Feb 2019
                        • 1492

                        #146
                        Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

                        I think it likely the Ripper's motive was the ripping itself. Causing damage to the female body. I think the removal of organs was part of that.

                        If you find yourself wondering where you did get that motive from, then you don't have to go too far, it is the one Fisherman, the defender of the torso-ripper himself, you are now in a good company.



                        The Baron

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                        • Lewis C
                          Inspector
                          • Dec 2022
                          • 1162

                          #147
                          Originally posted by The Baron View Post


                          If you find yourself wondering where you did get that motive from, then you don't have to go too far, it is the one Fisherman, the defender of the torso-ripper himself, you are now in a good company.



                          The Baron
                          The notion that The Ripper's motive was that he liked to damage the female body is a very common one. I suspect that it predates Fisherman by 100 years.

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                          • John Wheat
                            Assistant Commissioner
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 3397

                            #148
                            Originally posted by The Baron View Post


                            If you find yourself wondering where you did get that motive from, then you don't have to go too far, it is the one Fisherman, the defender of the torso-ripper himself, you are now in a good company.



                            The Baron
                            Lewis C has said it better than I could.

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                            • Fiver
                              Assistant Commissioner
                              • Oct 2019
                              • 3343

                              #149
                              Originally posted by Lewis C View Post

                              The notion that The Ripper's motive was that he liked to damage the female body is a very common one. I suspect that it predates Fisherman by 100 years.
                              Exactly. The idea wasn't created by Fisherman, it's been the majority view from the moment it was first theorized that the deaths were a result of a serial killer. The question is the emotion behind the mutilations - lust, anger, disgust, something else?
                              "The full picture always needs to be given. When this does not happen, we are left to make decisions on insufficient information." - Christer Holmgren

                              "Unfortunately, when one becomes obsessed by a theory, truth and logic rarely matter." - Steven Blomer

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                              • Herlock Sholmes
                                Commissioner
                                • May 2017
                                • 22333

                                #150
                                What I object to is the constant use of double standards evident in arguments:

                                If cannibalism was Jack the Ripper's motive, and there is a good chance that it is, then Bury is out, completely​“


                                I call out to every single poster on this site. Can any poster point to one solitary hint or suggestion that Kosminski was a cannibal?

                                We all know that the answer to that is a resounding ‘no.’

                                Therefore, Baron should be quite happy to state:

                                “If cannibalism was Jack the Ripper’s motive, and there is a good chance that it is, then Kosminski is out, completely.”

                                In the interest of fair-mindedness of course.
                                Regards

                                Herlock Sholmes

                                ”I think that Herlock is a genius.” Trevor Marriott

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