Mock trial for Bury Feb 3

[Abby Normal]

Thats better John, you're probably wrong but dont let it put you off arguing for him as you often do.

All the best

Steve

Hi el.
If he’s probably wrong then it has to do with the fact that ALL ripper suspects are probably wrong, since they’re all relatively weak. However, Bury is one of the least weak.

[Abby Normal]

I must be one of them plebs, then, because I don't find that in the least unbelievable.

He was a violent drunkard, like you say, so why couldn't he have come home pissed and, finding his wife had killed herself, flipped and "lost his rag" with her one final time?

I'm not saying that's what happened, but it's certainly not unlikely.

Hi sam
IMHO that scnenario is unlikely to the point of absurdity.

[Sam Flynn]

Bury was a violent drunkard who had previous for assaulting his wife. But these plebs believed she strangled herself, and Bury just happened to stab the body and conceal it for no good reason.

I must be one of them plebs, then, because I don't find that in the least unbelievable.

He was a violent drunkard, like you say, so why couldn't he have come home pissed and, finding his wife had killed herself, flipped and "lost his rag" with her one final time?

I'm not saying that's what happened, but it's certainly not unlikely.

[Harry D]

Boys, you didn,t get the result you wanted, live with it.

The contemporary court were reluctant to hang Bury and they still found him guilty.

Bury was a violent drunkard who had previous for assaulting his wife. But these plebs believed she strangled herself, and Bury just happened to stab the body and conceal it for no good reason.

[Elamarna]

You're right Steve I know Bury was Jack so what does it matter?

Thats better John, you're probably wrong but dont let it put you off arguing for him as you often do.

All the best

Steve

[John Wheat]

Boys, you didn,t get the result you wanted, live with it.
Seriously John to call those who took pary idiots is really very insulting. Not exactly a well reasoned response, nor one I would really expect from you.
It makes little difference in reality at the end of the day.

Steve

You're right Steve I know Bury was Jack so what does it matter? Well I'm 99 per cent sure anyway.

[Elamarna]

They only held the mock trial in order to reverse the decision.

Boys, you didn,t get the result you wanted, live with it.
Seriously John to call those who took pary idiots is really very insulting. Not exactly a well reasoned response, nor one I would really expect from you.
It makes little difference in reality at the end of the day.

Steve

[Harry D]

They only held the mock trial in order to reverse the decision.

[John Wheat]

No John, it suggests what many have tried to discuss over the years, that is the evidence against Bury is very far from conclusive.


Steve

It does nothing of the sort they are all idiots.

[Elamarna]

No John, it suggests what many have tried to discuss over the years, that is the evidence against Bury is very far from conclusive.


Steve

[John Wheat]

Bury is found not guilty in mock trial.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...ntral-42944124

In that case they are all complete idiots.

[barnflatwyngarde]

Bury is found not guilty in mock trial.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-42944124

[John Wheat]

I've not posted anything even slightly "irrational" (never mind completely irrational) on this thread, and the fact that you think that I have speaks volumes about your ability to reason objectively in this matter.

I utterly reject everything you just said about me. I've made no irrational or "ludicrous" comments whatsoever.

Well that's your opinion

[Sam Flynn]

I utterly reject everything you just said about me. I've made no irrational or "ludicrous" comments whatsoever.

[John Wheat]

K itYou may think it unlikely, but it's not irrational. Unhappy people hang themselves quite often, sadly, and it's not at all unlikely that Ellen was unhappy with her lot.

Yes but Bury's mutilations of Ellen and then the way he put Ellen in the box make it a highly unlikely scenario. Therefore in my opinion so unlikely that you are being irrational with your proposing that Ellen may have hung herself when it's clear she didn't hang herself. You don't even yourself believe she hung herself. You've just trotted out a highly unlikely scenario for no apparent reason. Using the much used I'm open to the possibility of line which in my experience is often followed with a ludicrous scenario such as your scenario that Ellen hung herself.