RD,
Firstly Brown said this:
“[Coroner] Did you see enough to make you certain that the deceased was the woman? - I am almost certain.“
Even people that are certain can be mistaken and Brown wasn’t certain so we have to admit the possibility that the woman that he’d seen wasn’t Stride.
Then you say:
I may get accused of nitpicking but that’s not what Brown actually said. He said:
“I saw her about a quarter to one on Sunday morning last.”
He was estimating the time. The Schwartz incident from the second that BS man first accosted the woman to the moment Schwartz fled the street would have occurred over a matter of mere seconds.
If we are to take the approach that all of these times are spot on then, for consistency, we would have to accept that either PC Long or DC Halse was a liar because according to them they both passed along Goulston Street at the same time and yet they didn’t see each other. Or do we take the reasonable approach that the likelier explanation was that their times were slightly out?
Mrs Mortimer herself appeared not to know when she was on her doorstep and when she was indoors. At best she might have spent a third of the half an hour indoors and very possibly longer.
There is no need to adjust times. Claiming that these times should be taken literally is a far greater crime against reason than it is to make an allowances. Without making time allowances we are whistling in the dark.
The simplest answer is the obvious one. Israel Schwartz walked along Berner Street and saw a man accost a woman outside the club. He past, got shouted at by the assailant and scarpered. The whole thing to around 20 or 30 seconds and no one else was around to see or hear it. Eagle and Lave were inside the club. Fanny was in her house. Brown had returned from the shop and was on his way home.
We don’t need witnesses pretending to be present when they weren’t for no reason. Especially when placing themselves at the scene of a knife murder with absolutely no one to assure the police that he hadn’t killed Stride. It makes no sense. A 20 or 30 second incident being unseen happens millions of times across the world every day.
Firstly Brown said this:
“[Coroner] Did you see enough to make you certain that the deceased was the woman? - I am almost certain.“
Even people that are certain can be mistaken and Brown wasn’t certain so we have to admit the possibility that the woman that he’d seen wasn’t Stride.
Then you say:
. Well it shows that James Brown was mistaken with his 12.45am timing of when he claimed he saw Stride
“I saw her about a quarter to one on Sunday morning last.”
He was estimating the time. The Schwartz incident from the second that BS man first accosted the woman to the moment Schwartz fled the street would have occurred over a matter of mere seconds.
If we are to take the approach that all of these times are spot on then, for consistency, we would have to accept that either PC Long or DC Halse was a liar because according to them they both passed along Goulston Street at the same time and yet they didn’t see each other. Or do we take the reasonable approach that the likelier explanation was that their times were slightly out?
It also shows that Mortimer was wrong with her timing that she was said to be at her door
There is no need to adjust times. Claiming that these times should be taken literally is a far greater crime against reason than it is to make an allowances. Without making time allowances we are whistling in the dark.
The simplest answer is the obvious one. Israel Schwartz walked along Berner Street and saw a man accost a woman outside the club. He past, got shouted at by the assailant and scarpered. The whole thing to around 20 or 30 seconds and no one else was around to see or hear it. Eagle and Lave were inside the club. Fanny was in her house. Brown had returned from the shop and was on his way home.
We don’t need witnesses pretending to be present when they weren’t for no reason. Especially when placing themselves at the scene of a knife murder with absolutely no one to assure the police that he hadn’t killed Stride. It makes no sense. A 20 or 30 second incident being unseen happens millions of times across the world every day.
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