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  • Archaic
    Chief Inspector
    • Mar 2009
    • 1903

    #31
    Originally posted by Gene Lewis View Post
    Conclusion : when you want to believe, similarities are stronger than differences... Findings old traces is a long way, I guess.
    (I'll remember I'm only a cadet…

    But what! The zigzag rooftops, the pointed roof and the carriage in the foreground: just Mr Diemschutz missing !
    - And his pony!

    Best regards,
    Archaic

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    • miss marple
      Sergeant
      • Feb 2008
      • 788

      #32
      I have just checked my Lost London and the photo is Chapel Yard,1906. The stone plaques on the wall mark the boundary between the parishes of St Clement Danes and St Giles in the Field, so it is in Holborn.

      Miss Ma\rple

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      • Michael W Richards
        Inactive
        • May 2012
        • 7122

        #33
        Its an interesting photo for sure but I agree with the former posters, not Dutfields Yard. Although the general shape may have been similar I suppose. Its missing the cottages, perhaps behind the cart...the side door, offices and unused stables.

        Best regards,

        Mike R

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        • Michael W Richards
          Inactive
          • May 2012
          • 7122

          #34
          Rough sketch

          I remembered this sketch from our discussions about Dutfields Yard in previous years, obviously not to scale.

          Best regards,

          Mike R
          Attached Files

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          • Tom_Wescott
            Commissioner
            • Feb 2008
            • 6996

            #35
            Project Turdburger

            That makes the passage look more than half the width of the house, which of course it wasn't.

            Yours truly,

            Tom Wescott

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            • Michael W Richards
              Inactive
              • May 2012
              • 7122

              #36
              Originally posted by Tom_Wescott View Post
              That makes the passage look more than half the width of the house, which of course it wasn't.

              Yours truly,

              Tom Wescott
              Hence the warning it wasnt to scale Tom. Just a rough outline of what was where. I believe it was 18 feet to the side door from the gates.

              Regards,

              Mike R

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              • Cogidubnus
                Assistant Commissioner
                • Feb 2012
                • 3266

                #37
                With the gates open, wasn't Liz only a foot or so from their innermost extent? That was my understanding anyway?

                Dave

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                • lynn cates
                  Commisioner
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 13841

                  #38
                  placement

                  Hello Dave. Good question. There were no fewer than four different placements.

                  1. About a foot (west). A PC who said she was just beyond the sweep of the gate.

                  2. About 2-3 feet (west). Morris Eagle.

                  3. About 9 feet (west). Doctor Blackwell.

                  4. About 15-18 feet (east of the rear door) (!). Issac Kozebrodske.

                  Actually, these may all be harmonised (believe it or not); and that puts Liz just inside the gates.

                  Cheers.
                  LC
                  Last edited by lynn cates; 08-03-2012, 10:20 PM.

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                  • Cogidubnus
                    Assistant Commissioner
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 3266

                    #39
                    Actually, these may all be harmonised (believe it or not); and that puts Liz just inside the gates.
                    Fine Lynn...open or closed?

                    Dave

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                    • Hunter
                      Chief Inspector
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 1745

                      #40
                      Open.
                      Best Wishes,
                      Hunter
                      ____________________________________________

                      When evidence is not to be had, theories abound. Even the most plausible of them do not carry conviction- London Times Nov. 10.1888

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                      • Cogidubnus
                        Assistant Commissioner
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 3266

                        #41
                        Thanks Hunter

                        Confirms what I thought...so she's ten feet or so (roughly) from the property boundary...not eighteen...

                        Dave

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                        • lynn cates
                          Commisioner
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 13841

                          #42
                          equivocations

                          Hello Dave. Thanks. Another good question. There may be some equivocation between "swing of gate" and "gate post." There is likely a second one between "feet" and "yards." (Dr. Blackwell and Isaac.)

                          Cheers.
                          LC

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                          • lynn cates
                            Commisioner
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 13841

                            #43
                            18 feet

                            Hello (again) Dave. The 18 feet figure marks the distance from the side door to the gates.

                            Cheers.
                            LC

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                            • Cogidubnus
                              Assistant Commissioner
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 3266

                              #44
                              Hello (again) Dave. The 18 feet figure marks the distance from the side door to the gates.
                              Hi Lynn

                              Thanks...that too is what I thought...but alas it's not what the side-note on Mike's plan suggests...

                              All the best

                              Dave

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                              • Simon Wood
                                Commissioner
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 5551

                                #45
                                Hi All,

                                Dutfields Yard [to approximate scale].

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                                Regards,

                                Simon
                                Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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