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  • Gene Lewis
    Detective
    • Jun 2012
    • 176

    #1

    Is this Dutfield Yard ?

    can someone expertise that pict ?
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    His man Bowyer
    (Forgive my accent, I've been to France for a while…)

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  • Gene Lewis
    Detective
    • Jun 2012
    • 176

    #2
    nb:

    it seems very close to that sketch of the Stride discovery...
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    His man Bowyer
    (Forgive my accent, I've been to France for a while…)

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    • Monty
      Commissioner
      • Feb 2008
      • 5413

      #3
      Hi Gene,

      I'm afraid it doesn't look like Dutfields Yard to me.

      The building in the foreground is different, and the buildings in the background do not match the known buildings either.

      Plus the wall on the right should be dwellings and not a containing wall, and the buildings to the right are too tall.

      Where is the photo from?

      Cheers
      Monty
      Monty

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      Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

      http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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      • m_w_r
        Detective
        • Feb 2008
        • 410

        #4
        It's no good asking me. Apparently, I'm

        Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
        geographically-challenged
        Regards,

        Mark

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        • Monty
          Commissioner
          • Feb 2008
          • 5413

          #5
          Originally posted by m_w_r View Post
          It's no good asking me. Apparently, I'm



          Regards,

          Mark
          I know you are not Mark.

          I have been from pub to pub with you.

          Monty
          Monty

          https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...t/evilgrin.gif

          Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

          http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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          • Rubyretro
            Chief Inspector
            • Mar 2010
            • 1906

            #6
            Whilst not the same, I would think that there are some striking similarities between the two pictures...a very interesting question.

            Where did the photo come from ?
            http://youtu.be/GcBr3rosvNQ

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            • mariab
              Superintendent
              • Jun 2010
              • 2977

              #7
              The wall, then the dwellings to the right look very different than Dutfield's Yard, and the "Yard" not deep enough. Do you know the date the photo in question was taken? Can you tell us how you came upon it?
              Last edited by mariab; 07-30-2012, 07:15 PM.
              Best regards,
              Maria

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              • Tom_Wescott
                Commissioner
                • Feb 2008
                • 6996

                #8
                Definitely not Dutfield's Yard.

                Yours truly,

                Tom Wescott

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                • Wickerman
                  Commissioner
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 14864

                  #9
                  The Goads Plan confirms that there was no multi-storey building off to the right, so high and so close to Dutfields Yard. Besides, that wall at the right side should have doors and windows if it was No. 40.
                  No, its not Dutfields Yard.

                  Jon S.
                  Regards, Jon S.

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                  • Harry the Hawker
                    Detective
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 130

                    #10
                    Could it be right up the back of the yard (next to/where the Arbeiter Fraint printing press or the coachworks or whatever it was was, if a later photo, i.e. past the side of no. 40)? It was quite a deep, narrow yard by the look of the map. (I very much doubt it myself, just thinking aloud.)

                    Cheers,
                    Harry
                    aye aye! keep yer 'and on yer pfennig!

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                    • Gene Lewis
                      Detective
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 176

                      #11
                      Hi everybody: this is from a bunch of scans with no captions, extracted from either "A London album", or "Lost London"... I don't know exactly because it's all mixed up... could someone have a look at these books and clear that question mark? For me, it is really similar to Dutfield's Yard
                      Regards
                      Gene L
                      His man Bowyer
                      (Forgive my accent, I've been to France for a while…)

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                      • Gene Lewis
                        Detective
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 176

                        #12
                        Just saw another sketch of Dutfield's Yard with that peculiar roof on the back... and it's still buzzing...
                        (I know it's heady thinking of a knew doc... forgive me for insisting)
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                        His man Bowyer
                        (Forgive my accent, I've been to France for a while…)

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                        • John Bennett
                          Premium Member
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 1205

                          #13
                          Hi Gene

                          I can see how one would jump to the initial conclusion that it may be Dutfield's Yard; the pitched roof building, the pointy buildings in the background, but there are too many differences which have already been mentioned by previous posters, like the blank wall to the right, the large block of what look like dwellings behind that...

                          Shame, it would have been nice to have a new photo of this elusive site!

                          JB

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                          • DGB
                            Constable
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 89

                            #14
                            Agree it's likely not - as mentoned - the lack of doors/windows on thr right-hand wall suggest not.

                            But the zig-zag buildings - important in verifying Philip Hutchinson's picture - are similar. Perhaps another yard in a nearby street, built to a similar design, hence the confusion?

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                            • CitizenX
                              Constable
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 75

                              #15
                              At first I thought it possible that the photographic plate was reversed and the wall we see on the right is actually on the left. The tall buildings at the rear to look remarkably similar to the goods yards buidings behind the actual Dutfield yard.

                              However the buildings shown behind the wall look too high to be the ones on Fairclough Street...they were only two storeys high, these are much higher.

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