The International Working Mens Association/Wiiliam Wess

[Tom_Wescott]

You, LC and myself, amongst others, have been "Fenianising" for ages...

No kidding. Lynn or Mike post and it's like a bomb dropped.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Phil Carter]

Archaic,

Now thats another good find! Well done!

best wishes

Phil

[Phil Carter]

Mike,

You, LC and myself, amongst others, have been "Fenianising" for ages...

THIS connects the Fenian organisation with a MURDER SITE!

best wishes and WELL DONE!

Phil

[Tom_Wescott]

Here's a listing for the newspaper printed by the IWMA at 40 Berner St., "Worker's Friend".

Says it was begun in 1885, is published on Fridays at 5 pm and that it's printed in Hebrew.

Never heard of it. I think you made it all up.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Archaic]

Are you suggesting that a partially amputated Ganesh was behind all these.......??

This is scaring me now.

Cheers Lynn

I thought Ganesh was a Happy Blue Elephant God?

Or does he have many hands and eat people, like the scary Eastern idol in 'Help'???

Archaic

[lynn cates]

social reform

Hello Mike and Phil. A veteran ripperologist assured me that social reform is behind all this. I should have listened.

The best, chaps.
LC

[Archaic]

Listing For the IMWA Newspaper In 1885 Press Guide

Here's a listing for the newspaper printed by the IWMA at 40 Berner St., "Worker's Friend".

Says it was begun in 1885, is published on Fridays at 5 pm and that it's printed in Hebrew.

(This listing was published in 1895.)

Cheers, Archaic

[Phil Carter]

Look at the the start of Mike Covell's "We have him" thread..


best wishes

Phil

Hello Archaic. I'll ask Mike since it's his thread. (snicker!)

You know, if this whole thing turns out to have some sort of anarchist/terrorist roots, there could be 5 hands involved.

The best.
LC

Are you suggesting that a partially amputated Ganesh was behind all these.......??

This is scaring me now.

Cheers Lynn

[lynn cates]

give 'em a hand, or 5

Hello Archaic. I'll ask Mike since it's his thread. (snicker!)

You know, if this whole thing turns out to have some sort of anarchist/terrorist roots, there could be 5 hands involved.

The best.
LC

In 1883 the Jewish population was broken down as follows;

"It was estimated about the year 1883 that the total Jewish population of London then numbered 47,000 persons. Of these, 3,500 were Sephardim (including 500 "Reformers"); 15,000 could trace their descent from the Ashkenazim of the eighteenth century; 7,500 from Jews who had settled in England in the early part of the century; 8,000 were of German or Dutch origin; and the remaining 13,000 were Russian and Polish. What might be called the native element thus outnumbered the foreign contingent by 26,000 to 21,000 (Jacobs, "Jewish Statistics," iii.). The various social classes into which they were divided were summarized by the same observer as follows, the numbers of the first four classes being determined from estimates of Jewish names in the "London Directory," of the last three from the actual statistics of Jewish charitable institutions; the number of shopkeepers and petty traders also were based on the last-mentioned source (ib. ii.)

There were but three occupations having over one hundred names: Stock Exchange brokers, 138; general merchants, 131; and tailors, 123. Then came clothiers, 89; bootmakers, 80; city of London brokers, 78; diamond-cutters, 78; furniture-brokers, 60; watchmakers, 57. The trades in which Jewish merchants had the largest representation were those in coconuts, oranges, canes and umbrellas, meerschaum pipes, and valentines."

Read more: http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com

Hope this is of some continued interest, although a sidebar to Wess or the Socialists.

Best regards all

[Phil Carter]

I still think Liz was a Ripper victim, murdered by the same man that killed Catherine Eddowes later that night.

OK, now you know the worst about me...


Can I still play on your thread?

Cheers, Archaic

Archaic,

You are very welcome!

All the better if that same man was John Turner/Charles Le Grand?

best wishes

Phil

[Phil Carter]

Hello Tom,
Hahahaa..Ripperhead.. thats a double meaning if ever I heard of one.
Slightly torn perhaps...
Besides, this isn't me..its an us thing.

I still would like to to know why John Turner in 1888 can't be John Turner in 1901?
It's possible isn't it?

best wishes as always mate

Phil

Another neat find, from Russell and Lewis's The Jew in London, a map showing the concentration of local Jews...

[Archaic]

ixnay on the eigenbaumfe ynnelay.....

Cheers mate

Aye-aye Sir; ixnay it is, Sir!


Phil and Lynn, I have a confession to make:

I still think Liz was a Ripper victim, murdered by the same man that killed Catherine Eddowes later that night.

OK, now you know the worst about me...


Can I still play on your thread?

Cheers, Archaic