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  • lynn cates
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    prevarication

    Hello Damaso. Good question.

    We know that a few details were omitted about Sailor Man just for the reasons you suggest.

    If a City PC came near Mitre sq and saw the culprit, then it must have been Harvey or Watkins. But if it was one of them, not only was information withheld, but also prevarication was done at inquest, as per testimony.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • curious
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    Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
    Recollections of Det. Insp. Robert Sagar, City of London Police.

    As you know, the perpetrator of these outrages was never brought to justice, but I believe he came the nearest to being captured after the murder of the woman Kelly in Mitre-square. A police officer met a well-known man of Jewish appearance coming out of the court near the square, and a few moments after fell over the body. He blew his whistle, and other officers running up, they set off in pursuit of the man who had just left. The officers were wearing indiarubber boots, and the retreating footsteps of a man could be clearly heard. The sounds were followed to King's-block in the model dwellings in Stoney-lane, but we did not see the man again that night.
    Daily News, 9 Jan. 1905.
    Does King's-block in the model dwellings in Stoney Lane suggest any of the known suspects?

    And where is this in relationship to Goulston St.? Never mind, just Googled and oh, my -- 3/10 of a mile and 7 minutes -- a native would know short cuts from the looks of the map . . .

    thx,
    curious
    Last edited by curious; 08-26-2013, 10:41 AM.

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  • Stephen Thomas
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    Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
    Recollections of Det. Insp. Robert Sagar, City of London Police.
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    As you know, the perpetrator of these outrages was never brought to justice, but I believe he came the nearest to being captured after the murder of the woman Kelly in Mitre-square. A police officer met a well-known man of Jewish appearance coming out of the court near the square, and a few moments after fell over the body. He blew his whistle, and other officers running up, they set off in pursuit of the man who had just left. The officers were wearing indiarubber boots, and the retreating footsteps of a man could be clearly heard. The sounds were followed to King's-block in the model dwellings in Stoney-lane, but we did not see the man again that night.
    Daily News, 9 Jan. 1905.
    Thanks Jon. I don't remember seeing that before.

    This is almost certainly the sighting by MM's City PC and interestingly the suspect is not only of Jewish appearance but also 'well known' to the police (ie easily catchable).

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  • Wickerman
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    Recollections of Det. Insp. Robert Sagar, City of London Police.

    As you know, the perpetrator of these outrages was never brought to justice, but I believe he came the nearest to being captured after the murder of the woman Kelly in Mitre-square. A police officer met a well-known man of Jewish appearance coming out of the court near the square, and a few moments after fell over the body. He blew his whistle, and other officers running up, they set off in pursuit of the man who had just left. The officers were wearing indiarubber boots, and the retreating footsteps of a man could be clearly heard. The sounds were followed to King's-block in the model dwellings in Stoney-lane, but we did not see the man again that night.
    Daily News, 9 Jan. 1905.

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  • Suppose a City PC did see something near Mitre Square

    Suppose the reference to "a city PC near Mitre Square" was not in fact a reference to Lawende, but that, say, an actual city PC saw somebody leaving Mitre Square in a suspicious manner shortly before the body was discovered. Obviously, no record of such a sighting exists in the materials we're familiar with.

    How in line with 1888 standards and norms for police work would it have been for nothing to have been made public, not revealed at the inquest, etc? I know that today, police forces frequently do not reveal the full details of murders, in part to determine the veracity of any confessions that might be made.
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