Did he have anatomical knowledge?

[Errata]

You are partially correct but before modern techniques were used it used to be an incision in the abdomen, which I would suggest would still have been difficult with the knees up around the waist, even under normal lighting conditions and in a medical environment let alone in almost darkness in a blood filled abdomen.

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Hysterectomies have been done trans vaginally since the 1860s or 1870s. Which seems insane given how little attention was paid to women's medicine, and how wacky various procedures of the time were, and given that at that point they were still giving hysterectomies for hysteria.

There's no reason for anyone to know that though. The only reason I know is that my dad is an OB/GYN and has textbooks from that era lying around and I looked through them to find c-section incision locations. And I was surprised.

[Trevor Marriott]

Actually the vast majority of women are in stirrups with their knees up and spread for a hysterectomy. Just saying.

I've given my opinion of the positioning of the legs any number of times. And I'm not under the impression that it bears repeating. But the position does not create any real problems with the removal of organs. It is incredibly uncomfortable for a woman to be in that position for any length of time, but that's not exactly a concern here.

You are partially correct but before modern techniques were used it used to be an incision in the abdomen, which I would suggest would still have been difficult with the knees up around the waist, even under normal lighting conditions and in a medical environment let alone in almost darkness in a blood filled abdomen.

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[Trevor Marriott]

Reality doesn't jive with your pet theory, does it?

All I can say is that I am glad I am in the real world and not yours

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[Errata]

Well lets just leave it there shall we. There have been many arguments over the removal of the organs issue, and I don't want to become embroiled in these issues over all again.

However since you asked the question. For the answer, consider this if you went into hospital to have your appendix out they wouldn't position you on the operating table with both your knees up around your waist would they? The same would apply to a female having a hysterectomy.

I hope that explains my previous comment

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Actually the vast majority of women are in stirrups with their knees up and spread for a hysterectomy. Just saying.

I've given my opinion of the positioning of the legs any number of times. And I'm not under the impression that it bears repeating. But the position does not create any real problems with the removal of organs. It is incredibly uncomfortable for a woman to be in that position for any length of time, but that's not exactly a concern here.

[Wickerman]

I'm not at all suggesting the official version is always correct, but in this case you can't make a pin-hole with a knife.

I only mentioned it because someone did ask if this was an indication that she had been injected with something.

[Richard Patterson]

You will find the original inquest record uses the word "fine", not "pin".

"The caroted artery had a fine hole opening – The internal jugular vein was opened an inch and a half not divided."

Thank you 'a fine hole opening'.

[Richard Patterson]

Someone who knew how to kill using a knife perhaps ?

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Perhaps indeed.

[Hunter]

When are you going to stop comparing the anatomy of animals to humans!

Reality doesn't jive with your pet theory, does it?

[Wickerman]

...The fatal and first wound was a pinhole made with a sharp pointed knife into the left carotid artery causing a haemorrhage...

You will find the original inquest record uses the word "fine", not "pin".

"The caroted artery had a fine hole opening – The internal jugular vein was opened an inch and a half not divided."

[Trevor Marriott]

With the murder of Catherine Eddowes, the catalog of wounds is almost too many to contemplate. Yet, their very bloodiness causes many to overlook a vital detail. All these horrid mutilations were made after her death. The fatal and first wound was a pinhole made with a sharp pointed knife into the left carotid artery causing a haemorrhage. Her death was instantaneous. This suggests a precise killer rather than a clumsy butcher.

Someone who knew how to kill using a knife perhaps ?

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[Batman]

All of the ripper's victims have their legs bent to some degree. Some more, some less. Their feet are sometimes flat on the ground. I always thought this was primarily a sexualized act but now I am not so sure. It seems that this is a deliberate way to get the bodies blood to the head, much like you would do long ago to someone in shock. Yes there are major veins that can be avoided during mutilation to release less blood but exsanguination is like emptying the body of all its blood and I don't believe he is just coincidentally adding gravitational forces to this MO.

[Richard Patterson]

With the murder of Catherine Eddowes, the catalogue of wounds is almost too many to contemplate. Yet, their very bloodiness causes many to overlook a vital detail. All these horrid mutilations were made after her death. The fatal and first wound was a pinhole made with a sharp pointed knife into the left carotid artery causing a haemorrhage. Her death was instantaneous. This suggests a precise killer rather than a clumsy butcher. This is also shown in the murder of Mary Kelly, the seeming practiced methodical way the organs were eviscerated, hidden by random finishing blows with the knife.

[Wickerman]

Well lets just leave it there shall we.

That much I agree with.

[Trevor Marriott]

I don't see why Trevor.

Well lets just leave it there shall we. There have been many arguments over the removal of the organs issue, and I don't want to become embroiled in these issues over all again.

However since you asked the question. For the answer, consider this if you went into hospital to have your appendix out they wouldn't position you on the operating table with both your knees up around your waist would they? The same would apply to a female having a hysterectomy.

I hope that explains my previous comment

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[Wickerman]

I don't see why Trevor.