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  • Errata
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    Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
    In Whitechapel, there were no Mortuary Attendants (Diener). The only mortuary was attached to a Workhouse.
    Workhouse residents were expected, or requested, to attend to the corpse, but I think a nurse (attached to the workhouse?) actually washed the corpse down.
    But are we looking for a mortuary attendant who worked in Whitechapel? Or one who lived in Whitechapel and worked elsewhere, an adjacent neighborhood perhaps? Remember commuting was generally an upwards affair. Commuting to better neighborhoods with better jobs. Now it's more of a radial thing, from the edges to the center.

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  • GUT
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    Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
    So are we my dear, after all this time, so are we.
    Trust me, there is no end to this madness.

    And I suspect some here truly are mad.

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  • GUT
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    Originally posted by Rosemary View Post
    I'm just trying to sort the wheat from the chaff.
    Bet you can't.

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  • Wickerman
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    Originally posted by Rosemary View Post
    Many thanks for your help. I know so little, having read only a few books. I've gone through the suspects section, victims section, Whitehall mysteries, maps & photographs in an effort to come to a few considerations, which is why I asked my husband for his opinion. It makes my field clearer, since my brain can stall going from message board to message board. Most of you have been doing this for so long and have amassed a great deal of information. I'm just trying to sort the wheat from the chaff.
    So are we my dear, after all this time, so are we.
    Trust me, there is no end to this madness.

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  • Rosemary
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    Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
    If you are only talking about the Whitechapel murder victims, I fear nothing so grand. Take one example, Dr. Phillips had an assistant, Percy Clark.
    If Dr. Phillips required any assistance at the mortuary Mr. Clark would be the natural choice.

    Many thanks for your help. I know so little, having read only a few books. I've gone through the suspects section, victims section, Whitehall mysteries, maps & photographs in an effort to come to a few considerations, which is why I asked my husband for his opinion. It makes my field clearer, since my brain can stall going from message board to message board. Most of you have been doing this for so long and have amassed a great deal of information. I'm just trying to sort the wheat from the chaff.

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  • Wickerman
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    If you are only talking about the Whitechapel murder victims, I fear nothing so grand. Take one example, Dr. Phillips had an assistant, Percy Clark.
    If Dr. Phillips required any assistance at the mortuary Mr. Clark would be the natural choice.

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  • Rosemary
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    Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
    In Whitechapel, there were no Mortuary Attendants (Diener). The only mortuary was attached to a Workhouse.
    Workhouse residents were expected, or requested, to attend to the corpse, but I think a nurse (attached to the workhouse?) actually washed the corpse down.
    Then it would be medical students assisting a pathologist? Sorry to be so ignorant.

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  • Wickerman
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    In Whitechapel, there were no Mortuary Attendants (Diener). The only mortuary was attached to a Workhouse.
    Workhouse residents were expected, or requested, to attend to the corpse, but I think a nurse (attached to the workhouse?) actually washed the corpse down.
    Last edited by Wickerman; 06-25-2015, 04:12 PM.

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  • Rosemary
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    Etc

    OT: Cajun food is distinct from Creole in its origins & ingredients. A great Cajun cookbook is the original 'Talk About Good.' There's no modern Creole cookbook, but Lafcadio Hearn's 'Creole Cookery' is a start but needs to be fitted to modern measurements.

    I have been badgering my husband who's at work [& I'm sure his patients wouldn't be happy with interruptions so I only asked a few brief ones]but he started out as a surgical resident then switched to another area of medicine.

    My questions to him were mostly could such & such a person do such & such a thing(s) under such & such conditions?

    What's the English equivalent to a diener & did they exist then? Or a pathology assistant? Merci

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  • Abby Normal
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    Originally posted by Hunter View Post
    Love Louisiana and love Cajun food...as Justin Wilson used to say, "I garoantee."

    Welcome, Rosemary.
    "Uuuuhn....Yuuuhn!" Haha

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  • Hunter
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    Love Louisiana and love Cajun food...as Justin Wilson used to say, "I garoantee."

    Welcome, Rosemary.

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  • Rosemary
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    The more I read the less I know

    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Hello Rosemary. Welcome to the boards.

    Yes, the arguments are generally well laid out.

    Glad you find them stimulating.

    Cheers.
    LC
    Yes, they're are so well laid out, for the most part, & enjoyably written as well. Some of the snark I could do without but perhaps it gives what we in Louisiana call 'lagniappe' making it all the more intriguing to get past the amount of subjectivity needed to post. Errata is making a vegetarian out of me unless I can find kosher meat, hard to do in Cajun bayou country. My hubs is a physician & I want to ask him a few questions before I post some questions I have before y'all laugh me off the thread. No, I'm too hard-headed a woman to bother. Wounded, probably, but I'll get up again after I fall down.

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  • lynn cates
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    stimulating

    Hello Rosemary. Welcome to the boards.

    Yes, the arguments are generally well laid out.

    Glad you find them stimulating.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • John G
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    Originally posted by Rosemary View Post
    The most fascinating thread I've ever read. Amazing arguments, I found myself going back & forth with each defender. Still at naught, but I haven't the background all of you have with the case. I probably won't be able to sleep tonight without nightmares. Well done, all. I do so love a good debate.
    Hi Rosemary,

    Interestingly, a number of medical experts, engaged by Trevor Marriott, are also sharply divided on this issue. However, the forensic pathologist-probably the most relevant medical specialty- Dr Biggs, was of the opinion that no prior anatomical knowledge was required: see Marriott, 2015.

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  • GUT
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    Originally posted by Rosemary View Post
    The most fascinating thread I've ever read. Amazing arguments, I found myself going back & forth with each defender. Still at naught, but I haven't the background all of you have with the case. I probably won't be able to sleep tonight without nightmares. Well done, all. I do so love a good debate.
    Plenty of threads here that will do that.

    Keep you awake

    Have you going back and forth, yep nope, yep nope.

    Some smart cookies, some who get a bit defensive some who can't see past their own pet theory, some who can't see the hole n their pet idea, some who live to pick holes in others ideas.

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