Did he have anatomical knowledge?

[lynn cates]

separation

Hello Cris. Thanks.

Do you recall the snippet Howard Brown posted some time back? In it, the paper reported the difference in the mutilations of Kate compared to the former ones--as related by the medicos.

Evidentiary? As a hunter, I'm sure you can look at how a knife has been made to penetrate and thus separate the men from the boys.

Cheers.
LC

[Errata]

On come on lets stay on the side of sensibilty !

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I didn't say it changed anything. But if you have a bunch of factors that you took into account to arrive at a conclusion, that should be one of them. Sick bodies do not react the same way as healthy bodies (even as dead bodies), and diseases of the kidneys can result in either seriously compromised blood flow, or something reminiscent of that scene from The Shining. Or no change at all. It should be considered as something that might affect the outcome. That's all I'm saying. There are dozens of other factors, you weigh them however you like. But it's one of the many factors of greater or lesser impact.

[DJA]

Couldn't that be because most animals don't have human-like navels, so they don't need to?

Nope.

[DJA]

I assume you took her Bright's disease into account? Arterial constriction, hypertension, lots of problems affecting circulation and blood chemistry.

Which reminds me, her kidneys must have been about twice their normal size if her disease was apparent enough to be found without blood tests (she may have had them, but that would be unusual for her class).

Her kidneys and adrenal glands had shrunk,rather than enlarged.

[Joshua Rogan]

A very skilled butcher might be able to do it but would not have done it in the specific way that the Ripper did - through a midline incision by-passing the umbilicus to the right. Butchers don't and didn't do that.
Prosector

Couldn't that be because most animals don't have human-like navels, so they don't need to?

[Prosector]

Short answer - no. Not only that but even an average doctor with a rudimentary knowledge of human anatomy (and that is what most doctors then and today have) would not be able to locate organs like the kidney in semi-darkness in about five minutes. You need considerable anatomical knowledge and ability. A very skilled butcher might be able to do it but would not have done it in the specific way that the Ripper did - through a midline incision by-passing the umbilicus to the right. Butchers don't and didn't do that.
Prosector

[Trevor Marriott]

I assume you took her Bright's disease into account? Arterial constriction, hypertension, lots of problems affecting circulation and blood chemistry.

Which reminds me, her kidneys must have been about twice their normal size if her disease was apparent enough to be found without blood tests (she may have had them, but that would be unusual for her class). So it was quite a bit easier to find than the average kidney. And more defined, so getting them out might not have required AS much skill as removing a healthy kidney.

Maybe that's why he took it. It was never going to get easier. Maybe the anomaly intrigued him

On come on lets stay on the side of sensibilty !

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[curious4]

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[curious4]

Casebook: Jack the Ripper - Another Look at the Lusk Kidney
What, then, of the Bright's disease, which we are told infected both the Lusk Kidney and Eddowes= remaining right kidney? The condition of "Bright's disease " ...

https://www.casebook.org/dissertations/dst-cmdlusk.html

This gives an account of what Kate probably suffered from. I don't think her kidneys were grossly enlarged.

Best wishes
C4

[Errata]

I wouldn't I have no need to. I have proved my point many times over the past few years on this topic with both text and visual evidence to support it. But some have their own agenda thankfully they are in the minority.

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I assume you took her Bright's disease into account? Arterial constriction, hypertension, lots of problems affecting circulation and blood chemistry.

Which reminds me, her kidneys must have been about twice their normal size if her disease was apparent enough to be found without blood tests (she may have had them, but that would be unusual for her class). So it was quite a bit easier to find than the average kidney. And more defined, so getting them out might not have required AS much skill as removing a healthy kidney.

Maybe that's why he took it. It was never going to get easier. Maybe the anomaly intrigued him

[Hunter]

Hello Packer. Should that be Nichols and Chapman? Their cuts were described as skillful, Eddowes's were not.

None of the medicos described Nichols cuts as skillful and quite frankly, from the information we are left with, I'm at a loss to see how that could be determined as such. She was cut and maybe stabbed...that's it.

I fail to see the point from a evidentiary perspective.

[Wickerman]

Trevor
Proving your theory to yourself is no great challenge, when you prove it to others you can claim your laurels.

[lynn cates]

Polly

Hello Packer. Should that be Nichols and Chapman? Their cuts were described as skillful, Eddowes's were not.

Cheers.
LC

[Trevor Marriott]

Why would you do such a thing?

I wouldn't I have no need to. I have proved my point many times over the past few years on this topic with both text and visual evidence to support it. But some have their own agenda thankfully they are in the minority.

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[Errata]

Have you ever stabbed a human body in the abdomen several times with a long bladed knife and then drawn it up so as to see whether or not the abdomen will fill with blood?

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Why would you do such a thing?