Motivation?

[Wickerman]

interesting wick. care to expound?

I don't buy the 'remorse' angle, not for a serial killer.
I'm not saying it's not possible, I just don't buy it.

Neither do I buy the theory that Druitt might have been so worried he was going insane like his mother - so, killed himself, no.

I do think Howells & Skinner were heading down the right track, someone might have found out it was Druitt and dealt with it the only way they could, to save reputations & the family name.

All that said, I think you know I favor the Britannia-man as the killer. Not that he couldn't be Druitt, but the man was described as having an awkward gait, and 'funny' eyes.
I can't see an accomplished cricketer having an awkward gait.

[Scott Nelson]

Correction..it was a blitzkrieg bop 2 weeks in length.

[Michael W Richards]

You've made this point before, John.

Serial killers have been known to have cooling-off periods after bursts of activity. Some killers have gone years between murders.

That's without taking into account factors such as incarceration or sickness.

Sure, if you presume we have a verified "series" of murders. We dont have that, by the way...but I think your correct about serial killers based on modern data. They can lurk in the shadows for long periods. I also think that 2 murders is barely enough to warrant a "series" designation, and to my eye only 2 murders within the Canonical Group can be logically and reasonable assigned to the same single killer. They happened 10 days apart. That guy didnt wait until the following year to kill again, and I dont see any solid evidence he killed Liz or Mary either. So....he either stops and stays, leaves, he dies or is caught. Most likely before Sept 30th.

This was a blitzkrieg 2 weeks in length, in my opinion. The rest is just presumption, mythology, speculation, and rhetoric.

[Abby Normal]

If he was not the killer, then he might have.
If he was the killer, then no, I don't think he did.

interesting wick. care to expound?

[John Wheat]

Didn't we have another one of those long..long...debates on that very terminology? That we demonstrated it did not mean homosexual in the 19th century.

I must have missed that debate.

[John Wheat]

If he was not the killer, then he might have.
If he was the killer, then no, I don't think he did.

Where is the evidence Druitt didn't commit suicide and if he didn't commit suicide who killed him?

[Wickerman]

At least 4 of the prostitures were beliveved to have suffered from syphillis.

Believed, by whom?
I'm not contesting it, I just don't recall it being mentioned at the time.

[Wickerman]

I believe it is common knowledge that Druitt and Tumblety for that matter were likely to have been gay.

Tumblety maybe, there was some circumstantial evidence there, but not for Druitt.
Some have preferred to label Druitt as 'gay' in order to eliminate him as a suspect.
It's akin to a 'straw-man' argument, fit him up as something he isn't, then use it to knock him down.

[Wickerman]

Him being described as sexually insane at the time.

Didn't we have another one of those long..long...debates on that very terminology? That we demonstrated it did not mean homosexual in the 19th century.

[Wickerman]

Druitt met his brother, confessed to him that he was the ripper, and that he couldn't help himself but continue butchering the women on the streets of Whitechapel, his brother thought how to keep the name of the family out of this mess, and chose to get rid of him.

You can always choose your friends, but you can't choose family.

[Wickerman]

who? druitt didnt commit suicide?

If he was not the killer, then he might have.
If he was the killer, then no, I don't think he did.

[The Baron]

It's just a bit too convenient to say that there was a cooling off period especially when there was such frequency with the C5.

And when Bury decided to go to the police and give himself to the hand of justice waiting in his cell for the investigations, the interviews, the medical reports, the trials, which may or may not end with him free man again, all this long procedures weren't a cool off period too if he was the Ripper?

You see John, your argument against Mckenzie being a ripper victim is the same argument that goes against Bury as the ripper.



The Baron

[John Wheat]

What if the police was watching him John?! Do you not think this is enough to keep him out of killing for some months?!

And what if he was forced to spend some time in an asylum?! And when he was out again he killed Mckenzie?! Is that not possible either?!



The Baron

Hi Baron

I suppose its possible but I still think it's very convenient.

Cheers John

[erobitha]

Did JTR contract the pox from a prostitute? Were any of his victims carriers? Did one of them give the disease to him? Was that the revenge? The facial destruction and slicing of the lower body shows a hatred for the organ that gave him the disease. No historian of the time has even approached the subject of what entailed prostitution at that time. How frequent was vaginal sex or was it primarily oral sex that the prostitutes offered? I assume vaginal sex would have been more possible in hidden areas and JTRs victims would have willingly gone off somewhere private with him.

At least 4 of the prostitures were beliveved to have suffered from syphillis.

[kwanitaka]

Did JTR contract the pox from a prostitute? Were any of his victims carriers? Did one of them give the disease to him? Was that the revenge? The facial destruction and slicing of the lower body shows a hatred for the organ that gave him the disease. No historian of the time has even approached the subject of what entailed prostitution at that time. How frequent was vaginal sex or was it primarily oral sex that the prostitutes offered? I assume vaginal sex would have been more possible in hidden areas and JTRs victims would have willingly gone off somewhere private with him.