Geoprofile of Jack the Ripper reveals Tabram and Nichols connection.

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  • MrBarnett
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    • Nov 2013
    • 5672

    #976
    Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
    The adjoining streets would have had market stalls, too, as they do to this day.
    And they comprised the busiest street market in London - a large proportion of the East End population would have been regular users of Petticoat Lane.

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    • Batman
      Superintendent
      • Jan 2013
      • 2931

      #977
      Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post
      And they comprised the busiest street market in London - a large proportion of the East End population would have been regular users of Petticoat Lane.
      What's the furthest distance away from this area to Jacob's home in meters for your best estimate?
      Bona fide canonical and then some.

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      • MrBarnett
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        • Nov 2013
        • 5672

        #978
        Originally posted by Batman View Post
        What's the furthest distance away from this area to Jacob's home in meters for your best estimate?
        A few hundred yards. But that's not the point.

        Where do you think all these people lived?

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        And this still photo doesn't show the lava flow of thousands of people that would have passed through the Lane on a market day.

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        • Sam Flynn
          Casebook Supporter
          • Feb 2008
          • 13322

          #979
          Originally posted by Batman View Post
          What's the furthest distance away from this area to Jacob's home in meters for your best estimate?
          Why just Jacob Levy? Why not Jacob Cohen, Jacob Samuelson, Jacob Weiss, Solomon Minkowsky, Moshe Abramsen...? He said, making up a handful of Jewish-sounding names by way of illustration. There were hundreds of Jewish men living in that area.

          Edit: perhaps thousands, having seen Gary's helpful photograph
          Kind regards, Sam Flynn

          "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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          • MrBarnett
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            • Nov 2013
            • 5672

            #980
            Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
            Why just Jacob Levy? Why not Jacob Cohen, Jacob Samuelson, Jacob Weiss, Solomon Minkowsky, Moshe Abramsen...? He said, making up a handful of Jewish-sounding names by way of illustration. There were hundreds of Jewish men living in that area.

            Edit: perhaps thousands, having seen Gary's helpful photograph
            I'd be surprised if there were many of the JTR 'Cast of Thousands' who didn't go down the Lane on occasion. Maybe not Gull or Druitt, but the predominant working class element from far and wide.

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            • Sam Flynn
              Casebook Supporter
              • Feb 2008
              • 13322

              #981
              Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post
              I'd be surprised if there were many of the JTR 'Cast of Thousands' who didn't go down the Lane on occasion. Maybe not Gull or Druitt, but the predominant working class element from far and wide.
              Quite so. Petticoat Lane Market was, I daresay, one of the busiest "go-to places" in East London.
              Kind regards, Sam Flynn

              "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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              • Batman
                Superintendent
                • Jan 2013
                • 2931

                #982
                Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post
                A few hundred yards. But that's not the point.

                Where do you think all these people lived?

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                And this still photo doesn't show the lava flow of thousands of people that would have passed through the Lane on a market day.
                Nobody in the contemporary is making that argument. Not even the press make the argument that Hutchinson couldn't possibly be telling the truth because of too many people being at the market.

                That would have to be a brand new modern argument.

                Hutchinson said he could identify him there. The press isn't phased by this and neither are investigators.

                So what changed since then for you to make these claims now?
                Bona fide canonical and then some.

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                • MrBarnett
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                  • Nov 2013
                  • 5672

                  #983
                  Originally posted by Batman View Post
                  Nobody in the contemporary is making that argument. Not even the press make the argument that Hutchinson couldn't possibly be telling the truth because of too many people being at the market.

                  That would have to be a brand new modern argument.

                  Hutchinson said he could identify him there. The press isn't phased by this and neither are investigators.

                  So what changed since then for you to make these claims now?
                  The point I am making is that the fact of Hutchinson seeing A-man in Petticoat Lane doesn’t make it likely that A-man lived in the immediate area of the streets which hosted the market.

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                  • Batman
                    Superintendent
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 2931

                    #984
                    Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post
                    The point I am making is that the fact of Hutchinson seeing A-man in Petticoat Lane doesn’t make it likely that A-man lived in the immediate area of the streets which hosted the market.
                    In the contemporary, the investigative assumption was that JtR did live in the immediate area.

                    I would think that applies to the men witnesses had seen. Including Hutchinson.

                    Therefore the Petticoat Lane man, if JtR, would live somewhere in the heart of Whitechapel.

                    Today we can call this the geographic profile. Hence this thread.
                    Bona fide canonical and then some.

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                    • Abby Normal
                      Commissioner
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 11900

                      #985
                      why are we talking about Jacob levy and peticoat lane in two separate threads at the same time? lol
                      "Is all that we see or seem
                      but a dream within a dream?"

                      -Edgar Allan Poe


                      "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                      quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                      -Frederick G. Abberline

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                      • Batman
                        Superintendent
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 2931

                        #986
                        Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
                        why are we talking about Jacob levy and peticoat lane in two separate threads at the same time? lol
                        Geographic Profile + Hutchinson's claims are but one facet of what seems to be a case for Jacob Levy being a JtR candidate.
                        Bona fide canonical and then some.

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                        • Scott Nelson
                          Superintendent
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 2401

                          #987
                          Or Henry DeFries, the gasfitter on Middlesex Street.

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                          • Sam Flynn
                            Casebook Supporter
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 13322

                            #988
                            Originally posted by Scott Nelson View Post
                            Or Henry DeFries, the gasfitter on Middlesex Street.
                            Henry de Fries? Did he eat chips, I wonder...
                            Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                            "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                            • Batman
                              Superintendent
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 2931

                              #989
                              Originally posted by Scott Nelson View Post
                              Or Henry DeFries, the gasfitter on Middlesex Street.
                              Compared to the information we have on Jacob Levy, how many of these alternatives Petticoat lane locals compare?

                              Jacob Levy can be loosely described as an insane butcher who matches the short JtR description.
                              Bona fide canonical and then some.

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                              • Abby Normal
                                Commissioner
                                • Jun 2010
                                • 11900

                                #990
                                Originally posted by Batman View Post
                                Geographic Profile + Hutchinson's claims are but one facet of what seems to be a case for Jacob Levy being a JtR candidate.
                                was Jacob levy rich?
                                "Is all that we see or seem
                                but a dream within a dream?"

                                -Edgar Allan Poe


                                "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                                quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                                -Frederick G. Abberline

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